Monday, July 14, 2008
Summer Bible Study Gathering III
Hey, my dear Summer Bible Study Siestas! I’m so enjoying our journey together! Hopefully you’ll be able to watch the (very rough, one-take, ridiculous-but-full-of love) video greeting, but I also like to make sure you have the discussion questions for each week’s gathering in print. Here they are!
We have four discussion questions for your Tuesday gatherings. The first two are from Week 3.
1. On p.62, Kelly quoted Michael Wells: “Satan will tell us what’s true, but he never tells us the truth.” Let’s have some examples of that. How has Satan ever told you something that was true but wasn’t the truth?
2. Kelly’s discussion about King Hezekiah and the attack on his faith on p.66 reminded me of a quote that I’d recently seen in the devotional classic, Streams in the Desert. “Genuine faith puts its letter in the mailbox and lets go. Distrust, however, holds on to a corner of the envelope and then wonders why the answer never arrives.” (p.168) What envelope have you been most prone to hold the edge of?
The last two are based on Week 4.
3. Reread the first couple of paragraphs from Kelly’s intro to Week Four on p.76 concerning people-gods. Then, look up Phil. 1:9-10 and read it together. How can these two Scriptures become a huge help to us in finding the balance between loving people and idolizing them? This came after I did the video: We did something in our small group that I found very encouraging. We shared some examples from our personal lives of idolatrous relationships that, with God’s intervention, actually transitioned into healthy relationships. These transitions are often rare because the relationship was fed by the idolatry and often can’t exist without it. Have any of you experienced one of those wonderful occasions when a relationship endured that positive transition? If so, share it!
4. Lastly, review p.87 and reflect on the whole Leah and Rachel madness. Reread the bold-print section at the top of the page. What are a few costs of desperation that you yourself have paid? And what is the solution?
I’m so honored to study with you, Sisters! Keep it up! We’re halfway through our summer series and God is faithfully keeping us from falling!
I love you dearly,
Your Very Own Mama Siesta
PS - Don't forget that comments are meant for after your gatherings, if you don't mind! Thanks, Siestas!
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 216 Newer› Newest»I am solo- blessings and love with gratitude
I am cracking up right now on Beth's precise hand placement on the "Big Sexy Hair" root volumizer...that was hilarious. Thanks for being sensitive to those who are tempted to toss a little "sexy" where it shouldn't go!! Nobody needs that kind of encouragement....and you were so careful not to offend anybody...way to go!!!
You are a skinny mess!! What a trip!! I mean that in a good way! It is 11:37 and I have been worrying about my hair day for tomorrow. I just washed, applied a smoother, then put anti-frizz serum in it and it made my hair so brittle. Well, why would that stuff even come together...soft then brittle?
Also, a big shout out to ANONYMOUS which Beth spoke of earlier oh girl how I know what you mean, can relate, and have been there.
Also, the enemy sure does twist the truth with his partial truths and plays on emotions until we have heaped a world of trouble on ourselves and without ever realizing the cost. I have at times so sadly traded my inheritance for a bowl of stew. Deceived and deceiving myself.
Anyway, I am so thankful for the cross and that we truly do have a God that will forgive us and redeem our lives from the pit.
Hairatic!! That was very funny...and considering I have LARGE naturally curly hair that goes almost to my waste, man can I relate to different hair products.
And your brand new baby...how precious! Thanks for sharing...and now on with the study...
Hi Beth! I am probably your youngest siesta. I am only 12! I saw you in Coloado Springs back in May. You were amazing!! I hope God continues to bless you!!
Love,
Hannah in Colorado <><
Hey Momma Beth!
We just had are meeting a few days ago and it was nothing short of amazing! It has been a tue gift from God! The girls are realy starting to open up and share more! And its been so good for me too! God is soooo good!
Love in Christ,
Rebecca <><
Ps. Love you and all the women on here!
Siesta Mama Beth, thanks for the advice not to wear my hair in a pony tail more than 3 days a week. With our summers being spent at the pool, my hubby is probably wondering if I will EVER fix my hair and put on makeup again. It is a good thing he loves me for "inner beauty" right?!? Thanks for all you do. I love you!
Oh Beth,
I feel woefully behind...I haven't started...good reason I'm solo.
Vacation was calling and I just returned late Sunday. I've been to D.C. Baltimore and NY. Visiting family, sightseeing, shopping and a show on Broadway!
Beth I thought about you as I shopped all those fabulous stores and wished you were there, we would have had a ball. Bargaining on Canal Street, what fun!
My trip home was horrendous, two airports in one city and several different airlines...I need to settle in now and start Bible Study. Nothing like getting in the Word.
See you in San Antonio!
LOVE the videos! Thanks Beth! Also thanks soooo much for sharing from the other siestas! It makes things feel "real" and closer. Its nice to see what is going on out there. Lots of love!
Beth you are a mess of FUN! I love your newest addition! Congratulations!!!
We had our meeting this morning at the coffee shop and we totally agree with the fact that Satan tells us the truth without being truthful. It's so easy to be deceived in that way. However, we are wising up to Satan's schemes (too bad that sometimes it's in hind-site). We are going to be on the look out for that roaring lion!
Queen Esther is ADORABLE! Are you bringing her to San Antonio????
We are having an eye-opening, spiritually-rocking, good time with this bible study.
My hair was totally confused.....but NO MORE thanks to you, Beth.
We are TOTALLY going to need some pedicures because our toes are being stepped on so often!!!
Great post all the way around!
I'm loving the study and learning so much.
Queen Esther "Star" is adorable!
Love you so much!
Hey siestas!
As you are waking up and starting your day, my day is nearing the end here in Kenya. So, I'll go ahead a share a bit from this portion of the study.
The goes along with Question #3:
For years and years, I had envisioned that marriage would be answer to all my heart's desires, and in my heart, had built it up so much that by the time I did get married, my husband had stepped into the role of idol of my life. I did not realize it at the time, and it made for a very rough start to married life, with disappointed expectations and failed demands. It was a recipe for divorce.
By God's grace, I was able to see the throne on which I had placed my husband, and the ways that I had set him, us, up to fail.
Ultimately, I had placed my identity and value in him, in whether or not he validated me, and so everything that I thought about myself was hanging on how our relationship was going.
We have survived and are growing in our marriage and our love, by God's great grace and mercy!! I am learning to place my total identity and validation in Christ alone, so that my behavior and heart attitude is ever honoring my God. I am learning to believe God. Blessings to you all!
Love,
Shauna Okongo
Kisumu, Kenya
I'm not in the study (can't find a book and haven't been a Siesta long enough to get involved online)so I feel a little bit like a kid watching all the other kids playing a game and can't get in. Sounds like I'm whining, I'm not! I have loved the little bit that I have been in on and can hardly wait to get my own book!
Thanks for keeping those of us who are on the outside looking in from feeling like we're not included.
Oh, and Beth, you have beautiful hair. I would never call you a "hairatic".
Girlfriend you just make me laugh! I love you so much!! So where in the world did you get those curlers? I have yet to lay eyes on anything like them and frankly I think it's just what I need. ;o)
I loved the video. It tooks me 30 minutes to watch it because my internet is soo slow here in nepal.. but I could not help but laugh my head off. It is so nice because although I am not able to do the study living in nepal I could not get to book to feel apart of a huge community of Siestas. Sometimes it gets very lonely being blonde haired and blue eyed english speaker in a world of brown eyed brown skinned nepalees :-) I loved the hair comments. I laughed so hard because it is monsoon season righ tnow and we are out of water.. so we shower maybe every 5 days-- but you really cannot do anything with your hair because in monsoon season it pours all the time.. so my hair is angry and confused ! Thanks for the video and I love reading you guys comments.. it makes me feel like I am meeting with all my siestas
Hey... that was my hair clip!!!! Yea for ponytails!!!! I am laughing... the best part of summer ponytails is teaching your daughters you can just flip it up wet and clip it too! I love teaching the next generation!
I loved having my daughter read the book and share my faith and maybe not my mistakes. How I wish I had known the bad places that idols will take you... all the time not even knowing all I longed for was the God standing by my side and the best love this world has to offer!!!!
I am so glad our church discovered this book and read it, it is so fun that you are putting it nationwide... so many chances to get out or to be wise and not to make the same mistakes!!!
We love you Beth and LPM!!!!
:) Kimberly in CA
So glad you noticed that tiny little detail, Leanne! I had to practice that. And as you can clearly tell, it was the only part I DID practice. Heehee.
Redeemed, you are a HUGE part of this! So glad you're checking in. Everybody's welcome! No such thing as an outsider to anyone who wants to be part of a community of Godly encouragement. We love you already.
The Journey Continues ~
I decided to wait a bit to add my comments. Last time we met, I received a message from someone saying " Beth told you not to comment until Tuesday" I was mortified and then laughed out loud!
Hair is such a woman thing. My husband continually tells me " Why don't you just shave it off and then you won't have to worry about it" Ummmmmmm... I might have to go buy one of those bald rubber head wigs and " surprise" him with it the next time we have company! HAHahaaaaaa
I love my Siesta's
Beth (Teacher) Amanda (Heart)
Melissa (Cook)!
With "Heaven Bound" blessings and hair beyond your wildest dreams! :)
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Here is Va, we had THE.BEST.MEETING last night. This week we had to meet a day early so we didn't have discussion points, but it doesn't matter because we started by inviting God into the discussion and He showed up. One of our group members grew up unchurched and has been really seeking the last couple of years.
Last night she asked what it actually means to be "saved" and we pulled out Romans 10:9 and she started to cry and said "I believe that!" Today she is finding herself overwhelmed with the love of Jesus as she goes through her day.
So exciting!
Redeemed come on over and play with the other Solo's at
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Come check out the blog - some wonderful siestas from all over and getting connected. Tonight we are doing our chat from 8 to 10 EST! We'd love to see you there!
I had an "ah-hah" moment with recognizing Satan using truths but not complete and total truths!
Big Hair Reigns:)
Beth, you just crack me up! Hairatic, that's hilarious!! I recognized that red can with the perfect hand placement! I'm not doing the study because I couldn't get the book in time but I love reading the blog and feeling a part of the siestas.
Lynn in AB
Dear Beth,
Your video #3 brought tears and then laughs at the end. Thank you for your transparency and for your gift of joy through Jesus. I'm going solo because of travel but am loving every minute. I have been a victim of a sister's jealousy (ironically, a sister 7 years older ... the amount of time Jacob had to work, and ironically, my first name is Leah) all my life beginning as a toddler until godly counseling (actually Jesus!!!) freed me from the umbrella of condemnation. I can certainly relate to the fear that those idols produce. I love the Phil. 1:9- 10 scripture in context with our study.
I can't relate to the ponytail as I've always had a lower hair neckline (self-concious of it:( but love the big roller clips. I use hot rollers all the time to straighten and smooth my humidity-driven hair.
I'm making Melissa's banana pudding reipe this evening for a neighbor who is sick. Her family will love it!!
Love from Atlanta!!
Beth and dear Siesta's I am really going through some things right now, so please pray for me if you read this comment. I'm not whining, just asking for a little lift! Thank you Beth for giving us a place to grow and laugh and cry and praise!!! Anyway, question # 1 is easy cause it's one I still fall for nearly everytime...
"Yes Judy, God said to cast your cares on Him, but you have to show some effort in this as well. He has to know your trying, not just expecting Him to save you".
#2 Not uncoincedently (is that a word?) my envelope and question #1 go hand in hand... And in my hand is the envelope containing my family. I tend to micro-manage everything. I need to let God be God and allow Him to woo them how He needs to. His way, not my way!
#3 I'm actually watching both my daughters go through this as I write. It's very difficult and I've had to lay down some ground rules. Needless to say I am not very popular right now and will most likely be losing one girl. On the bright side, our God is good and He has promised me it will only be for a season. I'm praising Him through my sadness cause He is so worth it!!!
#4 Fighting so desperately to hold on to something I never even had in the first place - the result was I made a fool of myself, I was exhausted and felt like an idiot!
I love you all so much! I'm so glad we get to spend eternity together!
Judy
Dear Beth,
As a faithful Siesta reader, I do want to let you know that I'm praying for you! I'll be in Minnesota this weekend with a bunch of girlfriends for Living Proof. We'll have big, sexy hair, too, but it'll probably be frizzy with the midwest humidity. Anyways, may Jesus bless you with a fresh annointing!
Love,
Kath in Wisconsin
I am a new siesta and was too late to get in on the study but am so looking forward to Esther! Girls, I'm in a battle. I hear God calling me to get a bunch of junk from my past out in the open with my husband but I am so fearful of confrontation. I think that I've made having peace in my marriage an idol. Please pray.
Hi Beth,
I have recently happily stumbled upon your blog. I am currently reading your book To Live Is Christ.
I have a question for you. I am dealing with a forgiveness issue. I have taken it to God many, many times and have to see the person who caused the pain next week at a wedding. My question for you is when you forgive someone can the pain caused by the person still linger? Will it go away. I have been on an emotional roller coaster with this issue for far too long. I have begged God to take the pain away. I have thought I have forgiven this person, but this stuff just keeps coming back to me.
We had 4 in our group today--2 were out of town. The discussion was fabulous. We went back to 2 Chron. and listed all that Hezekiah did to fortify God's Kingdom with truth, both the defensive and offensive measures. He ended by speaking encouragement--out loud--to all his captains and armies. Love it! We talked about the need to speak truth out loud.
After all the nasties Sennacherib tried and the taunts he spoke, then Hezekiah and Isaiah cried to the Lord, another "out loud" speech. In one verse following, God sent his destroying angel and the troops and foul liar who taunted were gone. Gone. One verse. That's all the truth it really takes to get rid of the idols and lies, and things that are true, but not truth. Let go of the envelope and just mail it and the answer is always there.
Hallelujah!
We all watched your video and got a huge laugh out of your hair tips.....we love it that you "hair" about us.
Our conversation was wonderful. The basic points we came away with were:
1. So many times we're all thinking the same thing and just too afraid to say it.
2.I'm not the only one who has "stuff" I'm too embarrassed to share right now concerning areas where I've misplaced my trust in the wrong things and made idols out of them.
3. We all feel like, or have felt like, Leah's.
4. When we hear God, we wonder if it's really God we're hearing.
5. True statements and truth.....loved that analogy.
6. We hold on to lots of "envelopes" when we shouldn't.
7. We decided that the way to avoid desperation and settling for crumbs was to pray for God to continually show us areas where we are lacking faith or are acting desperate and pray, pray, pray the Word right back to Him. Those are the words that will never fail us.
Ok....I died laughing about the hair!! I've just been thinking about how much I need a new "do"...however, I've had the same one for so long I'm not sure where to go. Please let me explain as I'm serious about this and desperately need some help here! I have straight, long hair. I don't use hair products. At. All.
When you have recovered and gotten yourself up off the floor, please let me say that my hair is crying out for somebody to rescue it!! I need to have hair that is easy to maintain as I am a housewife and homeschool 4 kids under the age of 8! Yet, the easiest thing to do after I wash it is to throw it in a ponytail or slap on a headband and GO (and don't even get me started on make-up)! I have no idea what "volumizer", "serum", or a "straightener" mean and my husband of almost 10 years had no idea I owned a hair dryer until I brought one out for the refrigerator repairman to use for defrosting the freezer last year!
If anyone can help me, I'd so appreciate it. You can send me a comment on my blog if you wish or better yet...come guide me to a beauty salon and initiate me into all of this.
My hair is desperate and is begging you for help from the bottom of its roots!!
tulip in Idaho
Ok...now that I've gotten all that "hair" business out of the way, I must say that I'm so sad I'm not involved in this particular study. It sounds so wonderful but I'm in the middle of moving this summer and schooling my kids at the same time. Something had to give but I feel so left out!
Also, Miss Star is BEAUTIFUL!! Thank you so much for sharing her with us!
In Christ,
tulip in Idaho
Hi Miss Beth,
I am not technically able to be "in on" this Bible study, as the Lord gave me the opportunity to go back to my former university to renew my teaching license this summer, by taking 2 three credit graduate level courses.
However, the reason I cannot join Y'all in the homework parts of this study is that each of these 2 courses only run for 3 weeks, and would normally take 16 weeks to cover during a "normal" semester course.
So, maybe I will get to come back to this study later on... But, I have been enjoying your mini lessons, including your hair tips! Even up here in Wisconsin, my poor hair gets pony tailed almost every day now, as the humidity has gone up again, and is supposed to be hot and humid all week long... And, mind you, I do know that there is a HUGE difference between Wisconsin's hot days and Houston's boiling hot days [after living there for 8.5 years prior to 2004], but the hair still goes limp on me here, too.
I am trying to work on my "Patriarch's study" every now and then, though, [so I can stay "grounded in His Word} when I force myself to get away [even for a little while] from the tremendous amount of homework, papers, and presentations that we are required to do in these grad. classes. However, course 1 is finished, so now I only need to deal with my second class, but the homework is much more intense for this one. Boo!
But, I know that the Lord wouldn't have given me these opportunities to take the classes if He didn't have His hands "all over it", so I am just trying to learn as much as I can, then when my brain "shuts down", I just beg Him for some more of His dunamis strength and wisdom... Because, without Him, I know that I could never do this stuff!
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On another note, my family & I could really use all of Y'all's prayers tomorrow, July 16th, please. It would have been my parent's 48th wedding anniversary and my dear Daddy's 78th birthday, but the Lord took him Home to be with Him in late March of this year. So, we are already feeling the effects of deep sadness that would have normally been a very joyful time in our lives.
And, to make things even more interesting, I have to finish up and do a 30 minute long + interactive presentation with my classmates tomorrow, too, and still have to write it up nicely. Although, I did actually finish my Power Point presentation [It is only the 2nd one that I've ever created by myself]. But, I did add on one page to it; I put in one of the nicest pictures that my Dad & I have ever taken together in my adult lifetime, and put it in there and have dedicated it to his memory, and am even daring to put in "Thank you for sharing your love, and faith in Jesus with all of us. I miss you so, but look forward to seeing you again in Heaven someday!" on the right hand side of this PP slide. I just couldn't help it. He was such a loving, caring, quiet man who shared Christ's love every day of his life.
Please pray for refreshment of my mind, body, soul and spirit so that I can finish this work, as right now, I am simply exhausted [but that might have something to do with my staying up until 2 a.m. working on the Power Point stuff]...
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I'd better get back to my studies now!
Lots of love and hugs to you all,
Jennifer O.
Southern Wisconsin
P.s. I am going to try out the Chicken Spaghetti tonight for supper with my Mom, though!
Great video....I have very confused hair!!
Our study this a.m. went very well. Lots of discussion on the questions, as well as some other readings that struck us. We are loving this book and it is showing us so much about the little idols in our lives that we are not aware of. I have a controlling personality, so I could relate to some of the stuff that Rachel did. The best part though was realizing we set people up as our idols. I so did that with my exhusband...I wanted him to fulfill all my missing needs and voids. Almost did it with this one, BUT GOD!!!
Keep up the great work Mama Beth..we love you and are praying for you. Looking forward to the next two weeks.
Blessings from the Bible Bunnies in MI.
Hi Beth,
I just had to say I laughed out loud when you had us say out loud "I am a hairatic", and that you "hair"....Now I will walk around with a silly smile all day !
I am unable to do the summer bible study, but I have truly loved watching and reading how the Lord is blessing and teaching the women, and I have been able to glean some of the growth just by reading what God is doing in their lives. luv you all...Cindy
I'm already doing a Bible study this summer, so I can't do the one on-line but I so love hearing from Mama Siesta via video!! And having naturally curly hair in humid Maryland, I SO appreciate the hair care tips. I agree with Leanne, well done with the hand placement! But I couldn't read what kind of mousse to use...
Hi Beth,
I'm also going solo and get this keeping UP!! I'm the biggest Bible Study drop-out. This study I'm really relating too. I'm finding out that I have been worshiping of gods (like quilting)
Thank You Liz
I'm still waiting for my book to arrive! :( I guess it's shipped, but not here yet. They were on backorder when I ordered it.
I'm gonna be so far behind!! I did the first session that I could get off of the computer, but I'm behind on the rest.
Pray for patience for me, if you would! :)
Oh my goodness. I am not doing this study but peek in here now and then. JUST THIS MORNING I realized that there is a very fine line between love and idolatry. My case being with my 19-year-old daughter...she's playing in dangerous territory and I am having such a hard time giving her up to God. I realized this morning that I am obsessing on her and losing my focus on Jesus! And then to come on here and see this! Ok, God...I get it! Please help me with my unbelief!
You guys are a blast....happy summer!
I am doing the study via email with a siesta named Marcia. We have so enjoyed getting to know each other (over 20 emails later!) and discussing our answers and asking questions as they come up. I must admit that I am surprised how open we both have been about our idols. It can be such a personal subject.
We discussed the difference between true versus truth and how it feels to be unloved by someone you wanted to love you. Thank you for your guidance!
Dear Beth,
you absolutely crack me up! I am a hairetic as well, my stylist says our changes every 7 years, well I am going through the change AGAIN!
Can't do a thing with it...
Star is adorable next only to the black boxer puppy (Rocky) my granddaughter just got. He has stolen all our hearts.
thank you so much for you love for us and for Jesus, yo are an inspiration, looking forward to your simulcast up here in Ohio.
Beth,
Since we are on vacation in Morro Bay, CA, my mom and I decided to go to Starbucks and pick up something to drink then we headed to the bluff overlooking the ocean and did our Bible study there. We had a really good discussion and had lots of fun; although I wish I had my hair in a ponytail because it was windy. My mom had on a baseball cap! :) Right before we left the bluff, we saw two dolphins jumping the water. It was a really cool way to end our Bible study!
Love,
Taylor and Sue from Visalia, CA
All 4 questions were very thought provoking. I tried to find a way to sum up all 4 questions with one answer. After many years of trying to solve all of life's problems on my own & many situations in my own personal life I didn't think I could get through, I now turn to Jesus Christ, Our Heavenly Father, and the Bible. 2 Corinthians 5 speaks volumes to me. I am trying to live the rest of my life here on this Earth by these words and see everything here as a "blessing" and a "bonus" until the Lord Jesus Christ returns! I hope these words will be a blessing to others.
You absolutely crack me up!! Would you be my best friend?! :-)
I too am going solo and will continue to log on as anonymous because of fear and shame. I have been a part of this blog since the beginning. I know that God is doing something wonderful in my life But I will not put myself out there in groups because I do not want to reveal too much of my past.
Is this an idol? Most definately.
I am coming face to face with issues and look to God to Guidance.
Thank you siestas for letting me be a part.
I heard this song my Ross King sunday and this is exactly what I needed to hear. Thought I would share it with all of you.
(sorry for the length)
by Ross King
Unplowed Ground
It's drier here than every I remember,
The fields that once were green and tall are now so bare.
And patience for relief has turned to anger
And joyous praise has been replaced by faithless prayer.
I used to love to tend these fields for hours
And even times of drought would only serve to spur me on.
But now ti seems like years without a shower
And somehow my desire to grow has come and gone.
This was the word to Jeremiah, but I think it applies to me right about now...
Break up your unplowed ground, and turn your heart to Me again.
Lay all your idols down; come confess your sin.
I long to ease your pain and bring your fields to life once more,
But I will not send My rain until you make Me Lord.
A vineyard ripe with blessing now surrounds me,
And every harvest so much more than I hoped for.
But as the fruit increases all around me,
I see how fat I am and I'm still wanting more.
This is the word God gave Hosea, but I think it applies to me right about now...
Break up your unplowed ground, have you so soon forgotten Me?
I cannot watch you bow at the altar of prosperity.
I long to shower down and see our love affair restored.
So break up your unplowed ground; it's time to see the Lord.
Habits turn to cycles turn to seasons,
And seasons turn to years before we know.
And we lay still alive but barely breathing,
And we whisper, "That's just the way it goes..." but the Lord says No.
Break up your unplowed ground and you will find a treasure.Sell everything you own to buy what can't be measured.
I long to lay you down in richer fields than you have known.
So break up your unplowed ground and make this land your home.
Hey yall!!!
Okay lots to answer
1..For me satan always attacked the fact that I was adopted. And that is true, but he used that to make me feel unwanted and unlovable and incomplete, I took that as truth for a long time, Until I heard what God had to say.
2..my envelope I hold onto is simply my heart. I want God to shape it and change and even break it if need be, But really I have a good hold on it, that keeps things from getting to deep.
3..I talked about this a bit ago in my blog. I think we can get really caught up in wanting what "she" has. But we are only wanting their victories. Do we want to be Beth Moore, well are we equipped to go through what she has gone through, because that is why she is all she is. God calls us to live our story not long for ones he wants to use to encourage us. I used to drain the life outta every friend cause I wanted to be anyone but me, Now I am so thankful for my story.
4..I gotta think about this one some more
one big AAAAWWWWWWWW for Star.
love you beth. ~janel
Beth,
I loved the video and wouldn't you know I have hair issues right now. You are so good to cover the name up on the one product. You are such a blast.
Our group tonight was so much fun and some very truthful discussion. Times where we settled for crumbs over God's best. We discussed your questions about holding on to the envelope. We talked about how we want things to be and even though we have prayed we at times as tried to help God out and take things into our own hands. One member said that God was showing her this picture of a force field that we keep around us that could be , control, unbelief, fear in what God's way out may be or fear of what is God's answer for us. This force field is keeping God's answers and His best from us. We could picture the scene from Independence Day that the aliens had around their ship to protect them. We agreed how sad it was that we would keep God away and not trust Him.
Great Bible study night. We had 2 at my house and 2 on speaker phone. It was like we were all together.
Have a blessed week Siestas.
Much Love,
Patty
the most interesting comment that got made tonight was one woman who said her biggest "people idol" could be found in the person of her 25 year old self (she is currently 38) that girl who used to could eat and not have to work to burn it off.
Our group of 3 homeschooling momma's and our 7 very active kiddo's met this morning. They had a blast swimming and playing while we had a really wonderful time sharing our thoughts from this study.
We weren't able to get together last time because of illness and going out of town so we did all four weeks today.
So much of this study is just hitting each of us in a HUGE way. The one thing we really talked about was how Satan will tell us what is true, but never tells us the truth.
For me, I just wasn't sure how exactly I could apply that to my life- then I read Kelly's examples!! Not knowing how it applied to me was a lie! Her examples are my current life. The financial situation and my relationship with my husband. When I read what she wrote - I only wished that it had been written in hot pink because who doesn't like a hot pink, flasing neon sign to let you know what is going on in your life!
What envelope do we hold onto? We each were in agreement that the one thing we hold onto is the need to control everything and have an appearance of perfection and having it all together. When in reality at home we have nothing in control and we are just normal imperfect people.
We also discussed Rachel and Leah. What struck us the most was how they each had what the other wanted but neither was happy. How often are we unhappy in our situation (whatever it may be) and look at a friend who seemingly has everything you want and seem so happy. When in reality they are often just as unhappy. We look to our kids, our husbands, friends to fill needs that they just can not fill. Christ alone is who can.
Thank you Beth for taking the time to put this together. We are loving it and this study is EXACTLY what we need to be doing. I must admit there are times where it is so honest and hits on such a level I have to step away and then come back to it.
Beth ,
Ya wanna know how God answered my prayers last nite ? ( " Yes " says Beth Moore )He knows I am so very worn out from having nightmares most nights , to the point that sometimes I dread going to sleep. So ... last nite after I switched off the lamp on my bedside table , I asked our Heavenly Father if He would please let me dream about something pleasant , something good , or fun , and not to have nightmares. WELL , ... hehehe .. in my dreams last night , you & I were doing conferences together ( You were giving of course and I was on the receiving end ) but we got to go shoe shopping and you selected MY fave pair of dress shoes in my fave color of olive green ! They were COOL shoes ! And we were on our knees alot. I'm sorry to say it wasn't in prayer though , but we had a toddler with us that you were babysitting ; ) ! It was great fun and when I woke up and remembered asking DAD for GOOD dreams , my heart felt so warmed. Who better to dream being with ?!
Your the best. And hil-hair-ious too.
Love to all - Beth , the Siestas , Amanda , Lissa , all the LPM staff and TRAVIS ! : )
Loving this study and Beth's summer tips... Really needed them earlier because I need some "Hair-apy" since I've been torturing my hair with COLOR TREATMENTS! Crazy, Crazy, Crazy...
Our meetings are so good. We have the chains falling off of us, Bless the Lord.
We meet at the forums and discussion is tricky.
Tonight - I added the last day's exercise as our sign off - (p. 95) I asked the ladies to share their insights from Colossians 3:16 at sign off:
Here is what we got:
1. (From meria) verse 4-When Christ who is our life,shall appear,then shall ye also appear with Him in glory. Then it will not matter what you are wearing
just Who we are with-well glory!
2. (katydid) I got the set your mind on God. I also got that most important piece of clothing to put on was LOVE.I also see that I am "the elect of God", holy and beloved,and I am to put on love which is the bond of perfection. v.15 "let the peace of God rule in your hearts" and be thankful.
3. (Diginee) Michelle (and all) - my impression from Colossians --- gotta stay "clothed" - - -
4. (4sbelle) I read NIV and NLT...I got the set your mind on God. I also got that most important piece of clothing to put on was LOVE.
5. (CarolinaNina) (1.) Set (action word) your hearts on things above
(2.) Put to death everything that belongs to your earthly nature
(3.) Clothe yourself with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience
And my own:
6. (Michelle.Bentham)
I will share three things from my three different readings...
1. (NIV) I must set my heart on Christ - in Him I find my life.
2. (NKJV) God's Word brings wisdom, teaching and admonishment.
3. (AMP) Seek the Rich ETERNAL Treasures over the temporary earthly ones...
I also got that "I am the elect of God" like (katydid) when I read the NKJV.
We found most of us were holding onto the envelopes of control and expectation. And one of our ladies, (katydid), commented "I'm really beginning to understand why we need to "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly..."" - Oh Amen, Amen...
Beth, this is something so vital to us - we are all changing a little each time we meet.
I will close by sharing my own insights from Philippians 1:9-10 - "knowledge and depth of insight as well as discernment all comes from the Holy Spirit - unless I am digging into God's Word and keeping the cross steadily between the people I care about and I - trusting in the Holy Spirit's guidance I run the risk of messy entanglements..."
Thanks so much Beth and all the sweet siestas I offer you some internet ((HUGS)) Until we meet finally in San Antonio... NOG ON, sweet ladies, NOG ON!
Blessings.
Beth, I love your advice to all of us! You're a trip. We're a group of 5 moms, all with young children. We've gotten deep and honest with each other and we're loving it! Tonight we talked about how expectations placed on us, whether by ourselves or by other people, drive us to desperate actions and prevent us from feeling the freedom that Christ offers us. We bind ourselves to living out these "good" expectations, rather than experiencing God's truth. That led us to discuss the expectations we place on our children. We expect perfect behavior and we are embarrassed when our child acts like ***gasp!*** a child. How are we binding up our children in our expectations? How does our idolatry of our children affect them? It's definitely not good, for them or for us.
Isn't it funny how we leave the salon and love our hair, but when left to our own to recreate the "do" it never works. Maybe we don't take the painstaking time to dry each strand with the roundbrush, or perhaps we substitute the recommended products with cheaper products that we think will do the job. But it just doesn't end up the way it was designed. Kind of like our relationship with God. We know what the design should look like, but we take shortcuts or look for the cheaper products and expect the same results.
Here's to great hair and more idols being laid at the feet of our ULTIMATE STYLIST!
Our Southern California group enjoyed this session especially Col. 3:17 and a discussion about Rachel, Leah, and the handmaids. Your "hairetic" was great.
I'm not able to participate in the study, but I do my best to watch the videos and read people's responses to the questions. I hope you'll do this again.
Our group met in Radford, Virginia tonight....Sharon, Connie, Lisa, Nikki, and Melanie. I'm the normal facilitator and I dialed in from vacation in Daytona Beach...I just couldn't miss being with my girls!
1.Man we have all bought some lies that Satan has put out there. For me it was the lie that the world is so much more fun than God. I've been a Christian since I was a little girl. Both my grandfathers, my Uncles, and my brother are ministers. I put God on hold through my teenage years and early twenties opting for the worldly "freedom" in false gods. Now I know the truth "THERE IS NO HIGH LIKE THE MOST HIGH"!
2. Sharon shared that she hangs on to "worry" and that it's hard to let go of.
4. Connie shared that she could sympathize with Leah...that she had felt like if she could just be a better house keeper...be more loving...etc.... that her husband would be happy....but there was always something else. And each time she settled for less and less. Now she defines herself by Christ and His love.
Love to all the siestas!!!
Pam
Mama Beth,
Do you have any hair suggestions for those of us with short hair...I mean I don't wear a pony tail..although I have done the small clip thing in the front...I won't tell you what my poor hair goes through some days...well I look forward to those. But for now I must get in chat via email with my group.
love you
It's three hours after we started. And, honestly, we could have talked for many hours more. We aren't even doing dinner, only dessert. Tonight it was Janet's homemade rhubarb pie with ice cream. Oh my! Veronica said it wasn't an idol for her....but she reaaaaaallllllllly loves rhubarb pie.
We watched the vid of the Big **** Hair instructions and laughed our heads off, cuz Heidi came with a baseball hat on!!!
But then we seriously talked about how we want to be trusting God for some things. One of us of our husband's salvation. One of us for our husband's idols. One of us for the acceptance of others at any cost. One of us for resentments, mostly against our husband. A theme seemed to emerge that we might all be dealing with stuff that is not unique to just "me". The blog entry you read on your video, resonated with our little group of five. We think maybe we, each of us, have something that we think, no one could love us if only they knew....
We are trusting that God will use our pasts and grow us from here, because we so want Him to and we know we can't do it on our own. We read Exodus 14:14. "The Lord will fight for you; you need only to be still." We're hanging on to some pretty big envelopes, Beth. Some we couldn't even talk about.
Some of this study is painful. It's showing us some stuff about ourselves we would just as soon not have to face. But Glory to God, we are willing!!!
Melana in Wyoming
I am so happy to share that tonight, our handful has grown to two handfuls! There were six of us tonight.
I'll let Melodee (Ezra's mom, if you read my blog) sum up the evening: She went to the North Pole in Colorado Springs and got on a ride with her two sons--terrified of heights and picturing their falling to their death from 40 feet in the air.
Then her son said how relaxing it was to see everything that God made. She then took a hold of herself and enjoyed the view, but had missed seeing the trees. She said they rode the ride a second time and this time she enjoyed herself.
She said, "I had to get my eyes off the ground and my thinking about falling, so I could see the trees."
How many times do we miss out on what God wants to show us for looking at the ground in fear? Good words, Melodee!
you have been eating too much corn, beth! :)
HAIR!
"I want it long, straight, curly, fuzzy
Snaggy, shaggy, ratty, matty
Oily, greasy, fleecy, shining
Gleaming, steaming, flaxen, waxen
Knotted, polka-dotted; Twisted, beaded, braided
Powdered, flowered, and confettied
Bangled, tangled, spangled and spaghettied!
Doing the bible study and it is very good! comments on the questions to come!
Anonymous - (Comment 45) you are not alone... I lived in fear and regret and shame for many years. My goal was, as Beth says it, "TO KEEP THE MONSTER DOWN..." But that didn't help, and to be honest with you - and you will have to figure out how this works for you between you and God - but that Monster did not stay down and it was not until I opened that closet door and let all those hidden, secret skeletons come rattling on out that I found myself free - It is so hard to share the deepest most shameful secrets of your life with someone and trust them not to judge and condemn you. But, when you find that person you can trust with your deepest and loneliest pain - you will find freedom.
Christ set you free, you must allow His forgiveness and His atonement to be credited to your account. If someone made a deposit in your bank account (like Christ did in our heavenly account) but you never "appropriated" the deposit by adding it to your ledger that deposit would not be a benefit to you. 1 John 1:9 says to confess our sins and those shameful things of our past and He is faithful and just and (has already) forgiven those things and CLEANSED US FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. You don't have to walk around in fear, regret and condemnation - pour it all out to Him, honey, He already knows and He is just waiting for you to trust Him enough to let Him walk you out of it. Romans tells us there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
He loves you so and so do we! Blessings.
We are checking in as yet another group in Colorado Springs and wanting to let you know we had an amazing time tonight with four of our six present. It was one of those God nights when I think we all showed up feeling a little stepped on and immediately admitted to one another that we just REFUSED to answer some of those questions of Kelly's!
To wrap up our evening together, however, we want all of the other siestas out there to REALLY AND TRULY understand just how much Jesus wants our very all. As a group of ladies who have been married, some of us more than once, and all of us in situations at one time or another where the word "adultery" really means something to us...that heart wrenching, deep in the pit of our stomach..."means something"...we were absolutely overcome tonight with just exactly how Daddy feels when we put him aside for other idols. Beth...we just had to ask ourselves this question...with this new understanding...does that mean at this time that , yes, maybe even THAT experience had purpose...to bring us to this place with Him tonight that we would NEVER, EVER have really understood fully until now. Hmm. Sorry we all left a little more somber...but yet rejoicing in HIS MIGHTY LOVE for us! He is our ULTIMATE THING!!! Yes, ma'am.
By the way...we appreciate the "sexy" cover up as well! You are just a little too funny. How do you pull this off weekly with a straight face? We are beginning to think you are more serious than we would like to believe!
Wendy...for the "other" group in Colo. Springs
Hey!
Beth, can you make the videos easy to find on GodTube so that we can watch them full screen when we get together? The videos don't all seem to be public (only the first I think).
Our group is going well. We are loving the study and God is speaking to each of us as individuals and collectively in our group meetings.
All 4 babies have been cooperating nicely so we can get through our prayer and discussion times without too much distraction -- well except for the cuteness factor that is a bit distracting at times. Someday we'll have to get a picture of what our group meetings look like!
Thanks for picking some great discussion questions Beth!
ok, I opted out of the summer bible study for various reasons....although I wouldn't miss my time with God every day for ANY thing. I check the blog to see how yall are and am so enjoying all the fun stuff yall are doing. The "scriptue tunes" are the best! I bet the angels and all those around the LORD our God love those even more than we do! Star is precious...hope she's getting good doggie manners. Isn't HE so great for allowing all these sweet nuggets of truth in this terribly untruthful world. Thanks everyone; thanks to LPM for sharing the love in a global way!
Beth and all my siestas,
I am so grateful for this study this summer. I can't tell you the difference it has already made in my life. With two little kids, it has been hard for me to focus, but i have been using some of your devotional journals to give myself a push out the door, so to speak, each morning before I get into gear with the kids. What a blessing!
I also wanted to say that for me the People gods week was the best so far for me. I can so totally relate.
I am so like Leah, from one bad relationship to another, even after becoming a Christian, looking for the love and acceptance that is found only in Christ. Settling for crumbs, and what feels like love, only to wake up in the morning and cry because it wasn't enough, and i felt guilty and dirty (and that is where the enemy came in and told me truth.. i am such a sinner, but the truth is that i am a sinner SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH... interesting how he leaves out the part that could heal you, isn't it?) I always felt that I deserved getting used by guys... so, I tried to stay away from them, but that never really worked. They were my idols.
When i finally married, I turned into Rachel. Nothing was enough, and so we had kids, got a house, bought stuff to furnish the house... and there I was sitting on the back of my camel, sitting on my household gods, and hiding them, so that I could continue to hang onto them. And still dissatisfied... and empty...
The costs of desperation? Lonliness, driving my husband to be what I wanted him to be, and almost driving him away from me... looking for my two kids to fill me... back in the day, the costs were the loss of my innocence, and losing any self respect, any sense of worth in Christ, and the feeling that I would never be good enough, or could do enough to earn the love of God. Still struggling with that one... and didn't realize it until I wrote it here.
God is really opening my eyes through this study this summer, and making it really dovetail with the things i am working through from my past.
Thank you all and God bless you,
Heather (solo in WI)
I also wanted to reply to the person who talked about forgiving yet still feeling the pain...
I have been working through much of this myself for the past year. I forgave the people in my past who hurt me, but the pain was still there. So much so, that I ended up in the hospital twice, wanting to die, and just go to heaven and be with Jesus.
I have learned that forgiving someone doesn't necessarily mean that the pain just disappears, though I wish it would. But I have learned that I have to allow myself to grieve through the incident, mourn the losses involved in the incident. God will heal the pain, but it is going to take time, and to acknowledge that the pain is there is a great step. When you can forgive the person, verbally say it, eventually the heart will follow. When you forgive, you let the person off of your hook, and let God deal with them as He will. But you still have to live with the consequences of their actions towards you.
God has been showing me through a counselor that the enemy will bring up time and again the pain that you experienced and tell you that you haven't really forgiven them if you feel the pain still. But if you have forgiven that person, you can tell the enemy, "I have forgiven ---- and I refuse to believe your lies that I have not. I am a child of God and He will heal me from this pain." And God will heal you, one way or another, this life or the one to come. But God will use your pain somehow, to either strengthen you or strengthen someone else.
(Beth please correct me if I am wrong on any point here...)
This got way long, but I hope that helps you a bit, anonymous. May God bless you and keep you through this upcoming wedding.
Heather (solo in WI)
Must add that I love, love, love Queen Esther! She's a beauty. Love that you chose one of our family names for her, too. Is she a Border Collie?
Baseball cap? Pony tails? Try every day...BOTH at once! EEEK! Is there HOPE for me? :-) (Check out the avatar ^^^-->)
Tonight in Cool, California Siestas were SIXTEEN strong! I can hardly believe it! 17 of us if you count baby Grace! I mean, golly! In our tiny little town, to realize that this many women are LOVING JESUS and THE WORD of God!!!! WOW! I bow to HIM in praise!
We plunged the depths tonight, bared our hearts, shared some deep stuff, girlfriends! We added a discussion question #5--Kelly's last question in week 4 about the "solutions" we pulled from Colossians 3:1-17. Oh glory! CHRIST is our life! Yes, HE IS!
Then we had THE SWEETEST PRAYER TIME together! Oh, Beth! If you hadn't thrown down the gauntlet for this summer study well, I don't know WHAT I would have done this summer! As it is, I am putting on sun screen, scrutinizing the summer sales, wondering about my hair...and LOVING MY SIESTAS, Jesus and the WORD somehow MORE than 5 weeks ago! PRAISE you, Lord!
Thanks, dear Beth!
Dear precious Siestas Nichole's mom and two new anons on 7/15 - boy have you came to the right place! Thank you for asking for prayer - we're all in this together (DON'T make me break out in the High School Musical song!). I'm smiling for as I prayed, I knew that there were a whole lotta Siestas lifting you up with loving hearts as well! Hope you felt loved, hugged and lifted up - and that's just from us! Imagine Jesus' prayers for you! Just know God will be faithful - He WILL be faithful to YOU! We love you!!!
My Nogs and I got together last night and, as usual, shared a WONDERFUL meal (both the chicken spaghetti and the crostata were outstanding) and some very real discussion. There are three of us, the other two are best friends. BUT, they are one of the rare friendships that has been restored from idol status!
As the scarred "other half" of an past idol-relationship, it was an encouragement to me that restoration really can happen in these circumstances, albeit seldom. What they attribute to their success is, of course, a miracle of God, but also the desire on BOTH their parts to get healthy individually and with God, and to employ the accountability of their husbands and others. They took things VERY SLOW and put boundaries firmly in place to make sure they were honoring God with their friendship. It's day by day and it's BEAUTIFUL.
Thanks so much for facilitating this study - and thank you Kelly Minter for being obedient to God in its writing!
And that little Queen Esther truly is the STAR of the show! :o)
We shared and laughed and set still humble acknowledgment until 11:30 last night. This study is so on target with what God is doing in our lives right now, and boy is He moving in big ways. We are so full of praise and awe that it was hard to sleep when I did get home. How precious to see how He is working in the lives of all of us in all 50 states and all over the world. We are so glad to be a part of the family of God (especially siestaville).
What a meeting! We are pressing on and studying. This has not been easy as we realize we have more idols than anyone would care to know. The ladies in our group all have the same problems. We lie to ourselves and believe those lies all day long. We don't go around lying to others mind you, just ourselves. We aren't good enough, or pretty enough, or skinny enough. We play out scenarios in our minds all day long and then we act based on those thoughts (which never happened).
We are working hard to recognize truth and stop believing something that is just true. We desire for Jesus to be enough. We are working on letting go of that thing which is just out of reach but in our minds would be what fills us. We have been confronted by Leah and Rachel and realize that even if we get that thing we were aching for, we will only reach for the next thing out there to satisfy us--- until Jesus is enough we will be continually seeking and obtaining yet never being satisfied.
Our group joins with Fernando Ortega as we cry out "Give me Jesus."
Well, I showed the hair portion of your video because one of us decided the other day to take her own scissors to her hair! Whew! We had a good laugh.
Weeks 2 & 3 are getting close to our hearts. The simple things that "creep" in and become idols are what we have dealt with the most and we all agree are very dangerous because we don't always recognize them as idols.
We had so much Holy Spirit led discussion that I can't put on the blog. We had a blessed meeting with our Father!
The Tennessee Eight
Thank you Siesta Mom! Your videos are a delight!
I love this study! I am solo - if anyone wants to partner up with me, I'd love that!
Dee in Kyle, TX
Checking in from Georgia--Great meeting last night. We have a somewhat larger group (14) so the sharing has been rather quiet as are several of the girls. Unfortunately several were out last night which left us with a group of only 7--they talked their heads off. Shared from their hearts. God is at work in their lives. It is so excited to hear about what God is doing.
I have cooked each week for them and the recipes have been so good and it has been such a joy to spoil them in such a simple way.
And Beth, I love the summer tips-- my hair must be way confused. Product to pump it up, flat iron to smooth it down, spray to lightly hold so it will flow, followed by "hair glue" to keep it in place! Nine hundred dollars! later, my hair is lookin good!
One more thing, little Esther Star is adorable. I want to go and get one just like her. No, what am I saying? I've temporarily lost my mind. I can not possibly have a dog right now. Seriously, she is the cutest thing.
Oh, on your "Stop It" post. You are it! Thank you for sharing your heart, actually you just laid it all out there on that one. We had a discussion on some topics last night and that was the very answer-Stop it.
Sorry this is a little long, I love you Siestas and read almost every post. I enjoy you so much. God's blessings to each of you this week.
Patti
In mid-coast Maine, Cathy, Lisa, Sue, and Jackie met at Sue's house, where we were presented with wonderful cucumber sandwiches, and the most marvelous banana pudding ever. We are all doing "First Place" as well, so the recipes were adapted. And, since the cucumber sandwiches were so lo-cal, we doubled (or maybe tripled) up on the banana pudding.
Lots of tears were shed during this Bible Study. "I'm afraid that if you knew the real me, you wouldn't even like me." What she soon found out, though, is that the true "her" is just like the true "us". We are all so similar.
We spent from 1:00-3:30 PM together, and left full (both spiritually and physically).
Bible Study was great last night.
The study is an eye opener about what we let in our homes via tv, music, books, erc.
The discussion on people as idols really spoke to a couple of divorced sisters. They both felt they had sought happiness through their spouses and their spouses happiness.
I pray each of us gets exactly what the Lord is telling us on each page of the study.
I just love this blog. I sign on every morning just to see what everyone is up to. It is absolutely fabulous. I would truly enjoy meeting some "Siestas" here in Dallas. I don't have a blog, but if you're out there, let me know. Would love to get together with several for lunch, etc and begin to get to know others. Huge blessings,
Blessed morning and day to you Spiritual Mom Beth!:)
Here's my group's summary:
1st, I don't think I've ever given my girls names in the group w/ me: Kassidy, Dominique, and Caren.
Ques.1:the enemy seems to tell us what's partially true, but not the whole truth-just the condemning part; we realized that we have to go back to God's Word everytime and claim scripture
Ques. 2:We are still seeking God on this one-we want to make sure we are giving Him everything.
Ques. 3:We are to pray for a love that is discerning and pure and will not cause others to stumble-no co-dependency!-life is to short! examples: rela. btwn husbands and wives and btwn friends that were brought to healthiness by God-PRAISE!
Ques. 4:desperation for a man to love us and accept us has cost us much, and the solution is making Him our One and Only and trusting Him, always looking to Him to provide that kind of love and acceptance and affirm. of value.
We love you too Mama Siesta, Spiritual Mom Beth! Also: the hair lesson was enlightening and the dog just precious!:) You make me laugh:)
katiegfromtennessee
Joshua 1:6-9, this is going to end well for us:) On ya.
Our group is really growing in discernment of our gods. It seems we keep coming up with things that are now or are very close to crossing the line from a "good" thing to a god. We had a great discussion on Satan's true things and what is truth. We feel that women especially tend to fall for Satan's true things, and forget about just what is TRUE. We are so excited about this study.
Love in Christ
Betty
Lexngton NC
We had a great meeting last night, 17 women were in the group. I had personally had a hard week, since I've called out to God to help me with my functional God the devil has been giving me a fit. This study is really helping and the group is really enjoying it.
Many in the group had an example of question #1 but the main one we all agreed on is how Satan does this so much to the teenagers today. He convinces them that they can go so far without any consequences when that is simply not true.
On the second question we had varied answers, but the one that touched us the most was a girl that is dealing with trying to become pregnant. She wants to let go and let God but she looks around at people that have children and then do terrible things to them and it's just really hard to understand.
On question 3 we felt that it was easy to idolize another person, but not one single person had a healthy outcome to an idolatrous relationship. Most in the group felt that they had to cut ties to that relationship to go on.
The "Leah and Rachel madness" was our favorite part of the past 2 weeks. The answers were varied and hard but all of the women had experienced desperation in one way or another. One thing we do want to point out is that the "mandrakes" needed to be barred from the household. There was too much trouble already!
Thanks for doing this study we love it so much and the ladies wanted me to pass along that they want to do it again.
Cassandra
Mars Hill, NC
Forgot:)
The apple thingie and the sandwiches were da bomb:) Still have leftovers..MMMNN:)
Love in CHRIST,
katiegfromtennessee
Beginning to see that I've allowed some relationships in my life to become idols. Also...... maybe even my computer!! Ooch!
Sue Sue
Just checking in from Florida... We had a great evening and we loved the chicken spaghetti! Nine of us gathered last night and especially enjoyed the time of sharing-- everything from twisted truths from Satan to the fullness that is found in Jesus alone!
We topped off the evening with the banana pudding that changes lives :) and coffee!
God bless all of you - how fun is it to know we are eating a common meal and sharing one true God?!!!
Dear Beth and Ladies,
The past 2 weeks study has been amazingly challenging, but so worth it. My group of ladies are going through so many challenges right now that range from financial struggles, being 40 and never married, a divorce, infertility...just hard. However, this weeks study hit me particularly hard. I am 36 and seeking fertility treatments. It has become my God! Hearing the words of Rachel "Give me a baby or I will die!!" So hit me like a ton of bricks. I never thought that something so pure that I had originally desired had become my "obsession".God has called me stop the infertility treatments for now, and lean not on my understanding but His Truth and His Word. I am so blessed to be taking this journey with all of you. God Bless you!
Alabama
A month ago 8 of us wanted to participate in this Bible study and needed a leader. One of the girls said, "OK who is going to be Beth Moore?" They picked me because I had the biggest hair (I have since started using a flatiron). On the way to BS last night I told the Lord I had nothing to give the ladies. My cup was dry. I asked Him to "Just Do It". Well, the Holy Spirit ministered TO all of us THROUGH all of us. His healing Presence touched each of us in personal and profound ways.
I got thinking, what do I miss when I try to have it all together as a leader? I wonder if the Holy Spirit longs to give us leaders so much more than our pride allows. Perhaps leadership is more about crawling to the Cross with someone than pretending we've been there by having it all together. Thanks Beth, for leading us into His presence with skinned knees.
Many Blessings to LPM.
Mary in VA
Tupelo, MS Group:
We met last night with all 7 in attendance. Had a wonderful time of sharing. This study has reached to some deep places within us and our group is opening up and sharing. We had a great discussion about Satan telling us true things but not telling us the truth. We could so identify with Rachel and Leah and their desparation and some of us have suffered the consequences.
The Chicken Spaghetti and the Apple Crostata are winners in my book! Thanks for getting the recipes a little earlier - Friday would be even better!
Love in Him,
Kay Martin
What a fun summer study! We downloaded Alli's Liar's song. Music speaks to my heart so quick I can be in tears in a flash. I have to have a tissue ready almost every Sunday when its time for our special music preformed by so many talented brothers and sisters. Our common meal was delicious! We chose the banana pudding! Yum! I kinda felt like a pioneer woman when I was picken the chicken off the bone. But it was sooo worth it! We loved the spaghetti.
As I have said before we include dad in our Meal...Last Tuesday night he was wondering why we were not having something special for Bible study night. We informed him that it was every other Tuesday night. He is going to truly miss the special dishes. I have a feeling he is going to hold me accountable and am going to have to start finding great recipes on my own. Melissa what am I going to do! You spoiled him!
God Bless!
The Drakes <><
Greetings from Wapakoneta, Ohio, Beth!
We have a group of five of us from our church that meet. We are thoroughly enjoying doing this Bible Study together! There is comfort in realizing that the idols each of us face aren't completely unique. Studying His Word with my church sisters encourages and edifies me to tackle the idols that keep me from God.
Yesterday we discussed how we keep a balance between giving things to our children and letting the worldly culture overtake their lives. We are realizing that, if we're not careful, our husbands and children can serve as idols. We are grateful to attend a Bible-based church that helps us raise our children in a Jesus-centered way...and teaches us how to live a Christian life in a fallen world. We are so grateful to God for our wonderful church and pastors...God is so-o-o good!
The strangest thing happened to me regarding DOING this study. I sent emails out to a number of people when the announcement came out. I got 7 enthusiastic responses of participation. Through a number of strange circumstances, I, the facilitator of the study STILL do not have the book! How weird is that?!! But they are all going on without me and seem to be getting so much from the study. My sister and me are the only ones without a book and we are hoping that this week will be the week we recieve it.
Good to see another Siesta that uses Big Sexy Hair products. I feel bad about having it in my bathroom for all the world to see, but us girls have to do what we have to do.
Congrats on a beautiful baby girl in your home. She is sooooo cute. I love the pink scarf, we girls have to have our accessories.
Thanks jennyhope for the statement "I have at times so sadly traded my inheritance for a bowl of stew." I, too, thank God for redemption in Christ. May we be so aware of satan's deceptive ways.
Also to shauna okongo, I can totally relate to having set up my husband as an idol. As I read your words I recognized myself. And like you, through God's grace and mercy, He is changing me and my marriage. Truly my identity and validation are in Christ alone.
I'm doing the study solo and I'm actually a week behind due to being involved with another study.
We decided that Leah and Rachel were the original "Desperate Housewives". Also when Kelly told us to look up the verse from Colossians in 3 different translations, my sister, Carolyn found that The Good News Bible said, "The peace that Christ gives is to guide you in the decisions you make." That reminded me of a sign I saw once that said, "The road of life is full of flat squirrels who couldn't make a decision." I said, "Oh, now we never have to worry about being a flat squirrel on God's path." His peace is priceless.
My friend, Connie and I met at my home last night and enjoyed the delightful chicken spaghetti with green beans. Great recipe Melissa! But please tell my sweet friend, Kimberly Myer, that not only does her banana pudding have the ability to change your life but also the size of your body! In good conscience and as a First Place 4 Health leader/member, I just had to make it sugar & fat free. It was still very awesome and sweet! Wonderful!
In our time together,we pulled out Ephesians 1:1-14. This is who we are in Christ no matter what satan comes at us with. Satan tells us true things about our failures but he doesn't tell us the rest of the story - the truth about our successes in the Lord! We choose to Believe God as to who we are!!
Our envelope that we hold onto are our children - our adult children. We keep them on our minds and don't want let go even after praying and giving them over to the Lord. There is that self-control issue that wants to hang on and then, too, the Lord doesn't work on our timetable but on His.
We actually have victory in the last two questions and found that with smart love, discernment and wise choices we can love certain people, pray for them but we do not have to have a deep relationship with them.
We are two Siestas in LA who are believing our God and making sure His Word is alive and active in our life! Now Jesus has the ability to really change your life!!
By the way, Queen Ester is adorable!!
Love you Mama Siesta,Amanda and Melissa Siestas.
Carol and Connie
Hello Siestas,
Our group met this morning and all commented on how very personal this study is. We mentioned buying locks to put on our books! :) We did discuss the questions that you gave us Beth and we talked about "true" versus "truth", but one of the great things about our group is that we (like today) will end up talking about a topic that comes up during our study questions. Today it was marriage and being an example to our children, especially our daughters, and to others. We talked about old testament marriage culture and new testament and where that brings us to today in this age of common-law and divorces. It all comes back to trusting God, knowing His will and following it. Have a great hair day everyone.
BBG's (Bridgewater Baptist Gals)
Hat's Off and Tame the Hair, Girlfriend! This was the most fun video clip! I have to put my two cents worth in though. I had to reach down deep in the closet on this one. Friend, I understand not wanting to "tease" your hair by the confusion of "hat vs. girly do", but YOU CAN DO BOTH and ALL IN THE SAME DAY! It works! I am proudly a hat gal...and didn't even realize to what degree until your challenge. I can become "all things..." girly do and wear a hat with the best of them. Check out the blog...I can even picture you in one of my girly girl caps!
Seriously, the study has been amazing! I have the privilege of partaking with two amazing gals I partner in ministry with who are so in love with Jesus and so authentic. It has provided a safe place of accountability. This weeks encouragement for me was trusting God to be enough.
Thanks for your faithfulness, to the Call. Our WM team had the privilege of meeting you at the leadership luncheon in Co. Springs in May. Still so blessed by that time. Hat's off to Jesus!
Hi Beth, Judy, Cindy, and Penny checking in from H-town. You are too funny with the hair tips!!! We ALL own most of the clips, by the way..hee hee....and the chicken spaghetti was wonderful, so thanks Melissa for that!
We three are really enjoying our fellowship and self examination that comes with this study. Our main discussion centered around the realization that we can put people in the place of God, and how we have each been there.
How easily it is to take our eyes of the "I AM" and fall back onto the I am in control, I am right, I am desperate, I am....I am...you get the picture. Our sweetest time is when we end with prayer for one another and claim that these idols are gonna be torn down for good! God is ALL we need...we just need to BELIEVE that!
We love you dearly, and Star is adorable!
Houston Girls
Well, we had another wonderful evening last night. It just so happened that it was my birthday and my best friend offered to host our meeting and fix dinner for us. It was wonderful. Everyone LOVED your video. No one holds a candle to our Mama Beth for godliness with much humor! :o)
For the first time we actually got through all four questions! One of the most talked about was question 3 which pertained to "what envelope are you holding"? One of my ladies asked, "Today?". To which we all laughed but could so identify with. It seems the struggle to let go of things often shifts from day-to-day. I don't know if anyone else can relate, but we certainly could! We encouraged each other to keep going to the Cross and stay there until we can fully let it go. Another good point that was brought up was about Rachael stealing her father's gods. We'd all just thought of it as stealing, but the point was made that she stole the gods because she felt she NEEDED them. Hmm. She was trying to fill that need with gods and not GOD. We had some good discussion on that one. A friend of ours, who isn't actually doing the study, came last night for dinner and just to sit in on our discussion. She's getting ready to move and just wanted some girl time with friends. I think she'll be a NOG before she moves as she trying to get her own copy of the book! It's been an amazing study so far and am so looking forward to learning with all the other siestas.
And thanks for the hair advice. Good advice is so hard to find...
Study went good last night. We made the "pioneer spaghetti." Funny thing--last week my teen daughter and I were making supper--spaghetti--until we realized we had no "sauce in a jar" for a quick dinner fix. We then improvised and used cream soup and chicken, etc. We thought we were so smart with our new invention--and then Melissa shows up with her recipe!! We had a good laugh--that's what we get for getting all cocky
Good discussion on lies--many said their eyes were opened up tremondously to the media lies that they are bombarded with. Also, good talk on people idols--biggie for us.
P.S. Is anyone ambitious enough to make Melissa's recipe that involves a "roll out crust"? I am so in awe!!
Hi Siestas,
I pray everyone is having as eye-opening a time as the GLOW girls are. The picture above is one I wanted to share with you of the idols we are bringing down off the thrones of our hearts.
It was so interesting to see that each of us had at least one people-idol in our lives.
Praise be to God that He brought this study our way because I cannot begin to express the liberation and peace of taking the idols off the throne and giving my Father His glory back
I'm doing this study solo and here's my comments for the last couple of weeks lessons.
Kelly's point about some of our idols not coming from bad things really stuck home with me. I think I do hang on to some things I selfishly want because I can justify them as not being bad in the scheme of bad sins or desires. And since they're not bad I can still do them and no one even knows. And that makes there be no accountability at all other than the Spirit which I can tune out with no problem at times.
Now that I am aware of this and know that some good things are not the right things for me. I guess I have to say to myself what I am going to be changing? Can I and I will let go of the envelope and let in fall in the mailbox?
Sheryl
Oh, I am LOVING this study!! Each day is better and better. I even was able to keep it going during vacation 2 weeks ago...though not every day. Ok, I can't get over the Leah and Rachel story. More than ever, in this day, I feel a struggle to be content. Kelly pulling this out really helped me to see even if I were to have it all, I could still be unhappy. But if I have Jesus as my all in all, then anything add or taken away will not impacted my joy. I'm going solo so I'm just commenting on the "thing" that impacted me most this week. Loving you all with all my heart!
Okay so are we just not lovin' some Kelly Minter, get off the toes, ouch that hurts, are you in my business, Bible study, yes we do :) And our group is so wonderful and in love with Jesus!! Praise His Name.
Last time we met I blogged in about one of our members getting Saved ~~HALLELUJAH!! Well this week her sister told us that she is doing great. She moved to California just a week ago right after our last meeting. And her sis said that she has started her own NOG's Bible study in a coffee shop with 4 other girls. Get out of town!! How awesome is that?!?! She is on fire for Jesus and she is helping others to catch the flame. I just MUST give Him the praise today ~~ He is the MOST HIGH GOD ~~ THE MOST!!
Thank you for the opportunity this has provided and thank you Jesus for the lives changed for you!!!
Praise His Name,
Dawn in Missouri
Melissa - you need your own comment! That spaghetti was to die for!! It made so much I sent half to my neighbor. keep those recipes coming (I'm going to try the desserts later...we'd just gotten back from vacation and those extra pounds didn't need any more company!! ha!)
I am solo, but am discussing with my mom who lives an hour away.I'm making the recipes for my little family...chaos last night as I bustled around the kitchen with my 2 year old and 8 month old following my every move (they have made themselves the official taste testers as they sit in their bumbo seats on the bar)- forgot to save broth for the liquid in the chicken spaghetti...ran out of sharp cheddar cheese...broke a container on the cabinet - glass everywhere & hopefully not in the spaghetti...several murphy's laws later we had a beautiful and delicious dinner in spite of the adjusted ingredients(there's no false god of perfection here - at least it didn't show up last night)....so glad to be a part of the study and community - I am learning so much!Thank you for your thoughts!Blessings and love -
Amy in the Texas Panhandle
Speaking of hair. I wonder why did both Peter and Paul give instructions on how a women should wear her hair? Would Melissa know and care to share a little about biblical hair dramas etc. I just love you all, and think that hair was even a big topic for both Paul and Peter. No pun intended on the "BIG" topic comment.
Loving this study!
Just wanted to share a few things I've learned about "relationship madness."
For me, exclusivity and an unwillingness to share others (or be shared) is a danger sign of an idolatrous relationship. This is even true in my marriage – if I become jealous of time spent with the kids, his job, his ministry, or even the computer, I know that I'm using that my husband to fill a hole instead of seeking God. When God is truly functioning as my "all in all" – He fills me up so that I'm overflowing and free to serve others instead of seeking to be served by others…
well, sabbatical or not, solo went by the wayside and I grabbed a friend. We are scrambling to catch up, finding that the first two weeks took awhile to "muddle through" and hear God's voice specific to our hearts. But we met last night and discussed the first chapters in depth and it was such a gift! By the next meeting we WILL be through ch 6, and in the middle we'll meet and do the questions you posted for us yesterday. Thanks for the opportunity to do the study. It's been good to be accountable to "go there" and weed out garbage in our lives! Praying for you, jen2n and kb in jersey
We were small last night - 4 of us were in town and available. But, our conversation was RICH (so was our cake)!! The discussion about true vs. truth brought out some excellent discoveries in each of our lives. We then had a great discussion about when you realize that Satan got you with a true but not truth - then what!?! Specifically, how does that not color other relationships, opinions, emotions, etc. Finding out the TRUTH can be a freeing experience walking in the Truth can often be a bumpy road. We are praying for each other and loving one another.
Thank you for your faithful leadership.
Hi from the "Siestas for Him" forum. As I've said before we are a group of solos (221 to be exact) that have gathered together on a forum that was so graciously created by a wonderful siesta. You are welcome to join us at any time at this site -http://forums.prospero.com/siestas/start.
So we gathered together in the chat room last night and had some great discussion (and a ton of fun too). We spent a lot of time talking about envelopes we are holding onto. How exciting to know that today women are finally dropping those envelopes in the mailbox. Things like: their past and they can never be used; guilt over being alive; being the provider of happiness for their family; not being able to trust God completely; financial insecurity. We learned how ridiculous it is to think that by holding onto these envelopes we can do a better job than God. Boy, satan is the master deceiver.
The other question I want to share with you is #4. Many have examples of acting out of desperation and the price they've paid. Marrying just so they wouldn't be alone; leaving an abusive home and finding someone/anyone to take care of her; feeding the empty hole with anything just to not feel the pain.
This study is life-changing. And what fun we are having loving on each other even though we have NO idea who is on the other side of the screen. (maybe that's a good thing!!) But there is a bond that has been made that will last a lifetime. Friendships that are forever. And sisters in Christ helping to carry each other burdens before the Lord.
Who would have thought...only God!
With much love and appreciation,
The Siestas for Him
Beth, this is the anonymous siesta whose comment you read on the video. Thank you so much for your encouragement. Thank you also to the other siestas on this blog who have prayed for and encouraged me and each other.
Obviously, commenter #45, I know how you feel and I will be thinking about you and praying for you.
Thanks to all you siestas for sharing what is going on in your own lives.
Our study is going very well. We are all finding new things about ourselves.
Personally, it is forcing me to go very deep. I have discovered that while I believe that God so loved the world ..., I'm having a hard time believing that He loves me.
I feel like a fake, my life is great, but to a degree I'm 'playing a Christian' I can't honestly acknowledge that He loves me and I don't know how to get that into my heart. In my mind I hear it and I know it, but deep down, I'm not where I want to be.
I am currently reading Sandi Patty's new book called Layers and I'm realizing that even though I've spend many years in therapy dealing with my history of growing up with two alcoholic parents and being abused by a family friend, I'm still wearing 'a layer' of feeling unlovable.
I want more than anything else to know, that I know, that I know that I am loved and that I love Him more than anything.
I really covet your prayers in this matter.
The peeps and I met last night in Bellaire; we skipped the spaghetti for Becker's Pasta from the book...it rocked, btw.
We had a great time. Even as long as we've known each other, it's interesting to hear new depths of sharing and hear what the Lord is revealing and doing in each life. We are playing catch up and did the first 3 sessions last night. I'm loving what God is showing us, and am hoping, believing and praying for some real "sowing-reaping-changing" to take place in each of us, not just another study to be moved by and then put on the shelf, ya know what I mean?
I also want to know what study is next!
Andrea for the Peeps
I went solo with a bowl of mint chocolate chip ice cream.
2. I trust God that our house will sell before we move (one month left), and then I don't...do- don't-do-don't...
3. My husband and I dated in college...we had B.A.G.G.A.G.E. and it certainly didn't help to attach ourselves to one another. We finally went separate ways and 5years later God had us ready to try it again His way. The do-over has been wonderful!
T.G.
P.S. Any advice for sprout-y hair that appears after having a baby?
Beth, I loved the video!! Your "hairactic" line was priceless. I stay confused so it stands to reason my hair would follow. Neither of us know from day to day what we need or want nor how much. We go where the "wind" blows us. hahaha!! Really though...would you mind a few tips on how you keep your youthful appearance? I believe you and I to be close to the same age and I don't think my skin looks like yours...what do you do it??? Mayo, um beauty cream secret or what?? Throw a fellow Siesta a bone would you??
Really,.... our group met last night and we consist of 15 women. However,due to weather (Noah almost had to build another boat smack dab in the middle of Dallas), illness, etc. only 5 of us met. As God would have it the conversation was rich and ordained to be exactly what we needed.
One of our ladies has a daughter who is having a baby outside of marriage and her heart was so heavy. Two of us were able to minister to her about the lies Satan tells us. We think our families are suppose to turn out and be a fairytale. And when they are not then we must have done something terribly wrong. Our "functional god" of having the perfect family...bringing us happiness as we know it did Leah and Rachel right??? ha! Two of us confessed having attitudes about not wanting children very early in our marriages because we had just gotten married. Satan had lied to us in the years to come, making us believe our attitudes had caused infertility and 3 miscarriages. How we had just enough faith to believe God would give us children someday but holding on to the corner of the envelope of "unbelief" for our actions. And in our desperation we would try just about anything to have children...trying to create what ONLY God can create.
It was a blessed time. Thank you for the questions that initiated our conversation. We are loving this study.
Blessings to you dear one,
Isaac's Mom (Royana)
PS. Isaac is my promised child after 10 years of waiting. Benjamin after 20 years for my friend.
I just have to say that Session 4 really hit home for me...I am 43 yrs old and have been a Christian since I was 15, and yet, somehow I find myself at this place where I am looking for LIFE...I have had deep feelings of being unsatisfied during the past several months and really don't know what to do next. I am in a relationship with a man that I love and care about, but as Kelly put it, I feel like I am "willing to give myself to someone for merely crumbs in return". I am struggling. I am praying that the Holy Spirit would fill up those empty places inside of me - but yet I still feel like I am looking for LIFE. I am hanging in here and just want to say that I really felt God speaking to me through this last lesson. I thank Him for this study and I love Him so!!Renee
Beth,
This study has touched me so much... See growing up I always felt like I wasn't good enough for God I was told many times that no man would ever love me, becuase see I was burned badly as a child, I have some really bad scares on my body... I remember the day when I was about 12 and my older brother looked at me and said you may be cute or pretty to look at you but once any guy finds out that you have that huge scare on your body he will run in horror from the uglness of it... From that day until I met my husband I didn't care about my body I figured that if I could get any attention from guys I was going to take it no matter what they wanted... My teenage years were full of pain and rejection, and abuse, I got in to drinking and drugs and a lot more... One day I woke up and relized I was pregnant, every one said abort, and I just couldn't do that, I'm so glad I didn't I have a beautiful 26 year old daughter that has given me 3 beauitful grandchildren... I'm so glad to learn durning the last 4 years of being a Christian that God loves me and I don't have to try and make a life through other people... Thank you for being here for us and I want you all to know you are in my prayers...
Connie
GBU
Please excuse this virgin blogger. I have been following a blog titled "Bring the Rain", and the link to LPM blog was there, so since I'm a lover of all things Moore, I've been trying to get caught up. If you Siestas haven't already visited the Rain blog, you absolutely MUST. It is such a blessing. And an added plus, she loves Beth too - as you can see by this excerpt:
"My favorite Bible teachers are Beth Moore and Priscilla Shirer. If I met either one of them, I would probably pee on myself. That was not the holiest way I could have phrased that… but I’m pretty sure they will both have special chairs very near to Jesus in heaven."
(Angie: I hope you don't mind)
Like I said, if you haven't visited & need reassurance that God is good and faithful, I encourage you to....http://audreycaroline.blogspot.com/
Hope I can get in on the next Bible Study.
Dear Beth -
We had 2 of our group of 3 but together were able to discuss and understand better the difference between the true things that Satan tells us and the Truth that he doesn't. We didn't get the clarity on our own...it took community and the grace of God. He is SO GOOD. He is teaching us because we SO want to GET it!!
XOXO
Cindy
We had a great group last night! Our discussion was really good, and centered around the different struggles we've had with people idols.
The one we ALL had in common is the temptation to make our husbands our idols. It seems to be a constant battle. We start out submitting and looking to them for leadership, and the next thing we know, we are looking to them to meet ALL of our needs-which leaves them with the life sucked right out of them and us completely disappointed and hurt. :)
This study is so right on and is hitting all of us right where we need it!
Well, My Siesta "Su", backed out on me this week, but I still have something wonderful to tell.
In the midst of me trying to sell my home and wanting to be where my Mom and sister are right now, I decided to do this study to "make it" through what I thought may be a long Summer with a home for sell. Would you believe? My mom called me up and told me that a lady from her church called her up and invited her to do a study called "No other Gods". Well, I was just thrilled!! Over 10 hours away and the Lord knew just what I needed to give me a smile. No, He didn't sell my home for me in my timing, but I felt like He let me know that He cares- He cares that I get what I'm really wanting, a mom to enjoy the word of God with even if it's 10 hours away...we are really now just a phone call away to talk about the very same subject and issues..."No Other Gods". Only He could have orchestrated that! I'm blessed, I'm thankful! I had to share.
And about what true freedom means: I feel like I was asked to pry every single of my 5 fingers off of everything I thought I had already given Him.
Beth, I too have a hair problem. Thank you for opening this up so we all can feel okay to be vulnerable enough to admit this! :)
I am meeting online with two ladies I've never met who live in different states and I am blown away by these women. How open and generous they are in sharing their hearts!
This study has opened my eyes to areas of idolatry in my life I never knew existed! I'm sure everyone is saying that, but it is so true. Thank you for organizing the Siestas to participate in this piercing study! My summer motto is: Make Room for Him. Praise to Jesus for Kelly Minter writing this study!
I could never fully express how much you and your bible studies have blessed me - have transformed me through the power of Jesus Christ. Thank you, Beth. I can't wait to see you next month in SA!
I loved the Hair 101 lessons. Though I was watching the video with a ponytail and a cap at the same time! My excuse: so much easier with the pool and tennis practice with my boys everyday.
I am going solo with this study. Several months ago I was even thinking that not everything can be the truth that keeps my mind so busy. I typed that sentence out and taped it to my mirror to set my mind straight about true and truth. Oh boy, do I ever have trouble totally letting go of the envelope. I am working very hard on giving it up to God and knowing that He is on my side and will take care of everything!
I have been trying to become a blogger for some time now, but I am not sure that I have. I don't know what The Gathering is. If there is anybody in or around Wendell, NC that does please let me know. I want to get involved with the Lord and make some lasting friendships. Life is so lonely when you are alone.
Ruth
Beth you are a mess, a God-given mess. Your newest family member is just adorable an she truely fits that name Star. I wish I knew more about The Gathering. I miss participating in a Bible Study. It's kind of lonely here in Wendell. I love being connected through this blog. It is fun and it keeps me God forfilled in many ways. Thank, I love all of you.
Ruth
Hello from Missouri!
We had a smaller group last night but still great fellowship. We're totally enjoying the Bible study and all your helpful hints, Beth!! You're cracking us up! We're all starting to open up a little more with one another and let our hair down (out of our ponytails). :)
Thanks so much for facilitating this and all your encouragement. You're awesome!
Anne in MO
P.S. Anonymous (#45), please know that I am praying for you. You are so heavy on my heart right now.
Rockford IL youth leaders . . .
-We carpooled to Tona's house!
-We had a wonderful meal!
-We talked through the questions.
*Although we did focus on our own lives and idols, we spent part of the time talking about the girls we work with (jr high and high school age). It was great to share our hearts for the girls and the struggles we encounter working with teens. We want our girls to have a passion for God's word and to realize that He is the ultimate thing. Everything and everyone else will disappoint.
-We followed many bunny trails:
*how ChaCha has all the answers
*how Rose got skinny and didn't know it and was NOT tempted
*how Erin and her sister "shared" the bathroom
*how Beth used to always hang out with skinny boys
*how Keri tried to change her laugh
*how Tona halves a recipe
I am going solo. So thankful for the accountability this summer!
Desperation causes us to do stupid stuff. I have a allowed a friendship of mine to become an idol. And in so doing, I have turned down invitations from others or simply not committed to doing something simply to leave my time free "in case" my friend should call and want to do something. I was kind of aware of it before this study, but God has really shown me how I have allowed this person such a place in my life and I am working on correcting that!
Girl, you just crack me up! I took a glance over at my hair products and immediately apologized to my hair right then and there! Hopefully it will reward me greatly in the morning!! ;-)
The one thing our group keeps finding as our biggest battle is our "image" which is ultimately pride. Everyone in our group is "high profile" (whatever that means)in the music ministry at our 14,000 member church here in Charlotte so we all struggle with our big "hair" getting in God's way - and the head under it!!
This study has been amazing - has knocked us all down a peg or two - and has us tearing down some SERIOUS high places we each thought we had long destroyed.
One of your questions about an idol relationship that was restored was that of my dad. We had an AWESOME relationship when I was young but some things happened in my teen years that nearly tore my family apart - mostly at his doing. We then became very "surfacy" with one another, painting on that face of "deceit" just to get by. However, I developed lupus and after the birth of my 1st child my parents moved closer to me. Then my dad developed brain cancer and the Lord granted me the honor of caring for him thru his illness and ultimate death. While it was the hardest thing I had ever done - especially being pregnant with baby #3 at the time - I wouldn't trade a minute of it. The Lord restored what the locusts had eaten in our relationship and I just can't wait to see him when I get to heaven.
We're truly loving this study and thank you for taking us here!!
Val
NC
Hey, we are behind and trying to get on track--We met tonight and did week 1 & 2. I am going to post the results on that blog and our plan is to meet next Tues. for week 3 & 4 and get back on track with the rest of the group for 5 & 6--that is the plan. I am so thankful for this study online together to keep us accountable because I would have just dropped it otherwise--life has been hard lately. I guess you all probably need to kick our behinds and/or pray for us. :-)
Oh, my word....hair-etic....I just about fell out of my chair laughing! And given that I have unruly hair that never seems to want to cooperate, can I just say that this mane o'mine must just be in a state of permanent rebellion against all of my mixed messages and product abuse...If only I had known! LOL
Anyway, I am a "solo" but I am loving the study and am learning so much from it.
I found several things really profound in the past two weeks of the study and I definitely agree with the insight in the statement about how Satan tells us what's true but never the truth. I think that Satan just uses our natural inclinations against us in this case...we don't like to see the bad things about ourselves or to question the things in our world that are comfortable, and he takes advantage of that. There are so often true things about our fleshly selves or the "world" that we've chosen to surround ourselves with that we must correlate with God's word or filter through the Holy Spirit in order to determine "the REAL "truths" about them. Lying is when someone outrightly tells themselves or someone else a falsehood...but I think we're more likely, as good-hearted Christian women, to just deceive ourselves most of the time....to not allow ourselves to "see" all the facts (not consult His word or allow the Holy Spirit to work in us) about a given situation and because of that, we are just wandering through life virtually blinded. I can't even count how many times I've just worn my spiritual RayBans and let myself just go through life not picking up on the Light...cause if I didn't LOOK I didn't have to SEE myself and what havoc I had created in my life! I'm glad to report that I have made some progress...but, like most of us, God's still working on me!
Thank you so much, Beth...and all you other Siestas out there....I appreciate your dedication to this ministry!! Y'all bless my heart each time I log on. I thank the one True God for each of you and hope that you have a wonderful two weeks until we "meet" again!
With loving thankfulness,
Staci
I am so blessed to watch this video and read all these comments. I am not doing the study because I am walking through "Living Beyond Yourself" with my sweet sister-in-love. I needed to learn how to let The Spirit bear fruit in my life. But I love how we siesta's can get on here and just know that we are not alone.What an amazing group of women you are!
Although I am not reading the book along with you I can answer pretty much all the questions. I will limit myself to question #3.
I met my husband when I was 15 and he was 16. We started dating a year later. He became everything to me. He was stability and I came from a very instable home. He loved me all the time and not just when everything was in the right place. When we married at the age of 21 I still held him up (in thought but not in words) as my rock. It took a few years to transfer that to my loving Jesus who is now the Rock of our marriage. My husband never knew that I regarded him as such, and when I told him recently he said something to the effect of "I never knew that." But my God did! I love that God made right and holy our covenant of marriage. Our marriage motto?...Selflessness Reciprocated....something that is beyond us, except through total dependence on the one and only living God!
Ya know...I was dreading this weeks bible study. My sisterface and I meet and I was dreading the whole Leah & Rachel talk because their situation is totally mine. I had to come clean and let my sis know that she was my idol...along the lines of jealousy anyway. She's got the looks, experienced love, has the family, blah blah blah. She was a bit surprised, but said "you're the one that has everything" ... now that was a shocker to me, so I said "what do I have?" She said "God, that's everything; that's what I want."
How humbling to find myself seeking things other than the Lord!
Anyway, I thought for sure I would die if I had to share my "stuff" with her, but it wasn't bad at all...ok, a bit scary, but it ended well.
ps...my sisterface shot me a glance at your baseball cap comment...I do, however, keep it to the weekends...um, and after work, and on jeans day at work...
Hello to all the summer bible study siestas! I wasn't going to do this study but I've been lurking and feel 100% convicted that I need to get moving and get caught up. I'm jumping in solo from Tucson. I've been reading through many of this week's comments and there are so many that could have been written by me. I have to add Beth, that your new canine baby girl is just SO cute and sweet looking. So glad you have her! Gotta go find a book so I can join in the discussion next week!
I love you Beth,
The hair-a-tic comments made me bust out laughing. You are a funny siesta.
Kim
Mama Beth! You are so funny. It makes us all feel like you are our best girl friend. ;)
I really enjoyed my "new fangled" small group that meets by cell phone. 2 here and 2 there on speaker phone. It was a blast. We laughed and talked about our two very different dinners. Next time it will be a conference call, because I WON'T miss our time together. It is much to important to me to be encouraged by my "Siesta Girls"! Thank you for the thought provoking questions.
To the Siesta about the confrontation with her husband...been there...done that...had to go to a counselor, but God has restored, rebuilt and made better than ever before!
We had another fantastic time at our get-together! We were down a couple of folks, but they were with us in spirit. Ginny, Becky, and Heather continued our dessert tradition with Apple Cinnamon cake--yum! And Heather brought her 5-year-old daughter, Makenna, who insisted she be allowed to "talk about Jesus with the big girls"--now who could resist that?
Thanks for the hair pep talk--As one who rarely wears anything but a pony-tail, and another whose hair is definitely confused about the expectations placed on it (long or short, just make up your mind already!), we needed some encouragement. And Queen Esther is just beautiful! Congratulations on your new arrival!
We gained some valuable insights from this meeting and are looking forward to the next one!
Ginny, Becky, Heather, Martha, Lacey, and Makenna
Here are the answers that Sunshine and I came up with in our study
1) The one thing that comes to mind here is money – especially with the rising gas and food prices. God clearly states that we are not to worry about what we will wear, eat, etc; - that His kingdom is first…yet I find myself worry about what we will eat, wear etc; It is true that we may not have enough money – but the truth is this God provides. He states it over and over and over
2) Oh wow – I think I have an entire collection of envelopes – I will pray about something and then come up with a back up plan. I love the imagery this quote painted. I need to visit the mailbox and mail some stuff – for good.
3) UGH – this is a hard one. I have several relationships – core ones that are going through the pain of this right now – so far I have not gotten to see what it is like for one to be put back on the right track – but with God all things are possible.
4) Another tough question – so much of my life has been back tracking from the decisions made in the moment of absolute desperation. In fact there are too many to list and too many that I would be embarrassed to share. The solution is for me once and for all to resolve that my hope is in God – no where else – no one else – He alone is it. Keep Jesus forever in front of me so that when I look at anything I have to see it through Him (kind of in my mind as if I had to put Jesus on like a pair of glasses)
and:
1) Satan has twisted truth until it wasn’t truth anymore
2) I really liked the quote about mailing the letter but not letting go of the envelope! That sounds so much like me! Which envelope am I most prone to hold the edge of? Probably those that involve my family. I’ll pray but then not let go of the worry about it.
3) Having knowledge and discernment, helping us determine what really matters would help us to know whether or not a relationship was healthy or idolatrous. I have had one relationship that was unhealthy and idolatrous that God changed into a healthy one and that was my relationship with my husband (before we were married).
4) I have acted out of desperation in relationships when I was single always looking for love, approval and affection. When Kelly talked about being willing to give yourself for merely crumbs in return that really reminded me of my friend and I trying to “win” some guy we thought was “the one” and being so excited by the smallest crumbs of attention they gave us. We really bent over backwards sometimes trying to get noticed…so SAD! Of course we weren’t walking with God then.
Someone posted a comment from Dallas about going solo and I tried to click on it, but couldn't get to their blog. Anway, if anyone is in Dallas and would like to attend a group even if only once, please email me - we would love it! My email address is jennyfergray@yahoo.com.
Beth quoted from "Streams in the Desert" and referenced a page number. I musgthave a different edition than she is using and wondered what daily reading she was referring to.
Siestas, on and all...
So many of you have commented on how Beth makes you laugh. I am laughing, then I show my husband who is laughing and our kids are joining in at the end, to find out what mom and dad are laughing at, and see sweet Queen Esther. I know my family doesn't really KNOW you Beth, but sometimes, we sure feel like we do. Thanks for sharing so much of your life with us!
Regarding the study. Wow, does it hurt so good! Practically speaking, discussed a lot of coming to know how we hold onto that envelope and prevent the Lord's work. In God's presence, more transparency, exposure of the darkeness to the Light, prayer and anticipation of redemption. There are some heavy burdens. If the Lord lays this group on anyone's hearts, please pray. We discussed how we can be pressed on every side but not crushed. Blessed be the name of the Lord. He is our strong tower! Our prayers affect change in the heavenlies!
Thank you for letting God initiate this study through you!
Love,
Jina
We had a great get together last night! I made an asian chicken salad and some dark chocolate brownies! I know its not about what we ate...but it is part of it, right!
Good discussion about our fear and how we say we trust but our actions show we do not. Prayed for clarity and wisdom about seeing truth and not being deceived by things that may be true but are not Truth!
Thanks, Sweet Sister Beth, I adore you! God is so good ~Amen!
Miles City, MT
Our group meets on Wednesday evenings, and this week we had a lot of catching up to do since we hadn't been able to meet since our kick-off.
We talked for over 3 hours! The discussion was great, and a lot of it centered around "people-gods" we've had: our husbands, best friends and pastors. Glory to God, many of those relationships are transitioning into healthy ones - it seems God may have even brought one of our sisters back to our area to change and redeem her relationship to one of those "people-gods."
All in all it was such a good time of reflecting and sharing. We split the memory verse up in 4 parts and almost had it down by the time we left - more glory (and majesty and power and authority) to God! ;)
Thanks for giving us such fabulous questions, Mama Beth :).
Our group of 6 on-line via email from all over the U.S. couldn't help but think of Leah & Rachel, and some commented what they had learned about this from our Patriarch's study. The fact remains that this is a descructive "habit" of desperation to be grasping/hungering for approval, to be needed, desired, wanted, loved...to the point of manipulation. DESPERATE FOR ATTENTION.
God is our answer. Yet there are times, that we slip into this, Lord help us! We desire to do so no longer!!
Also the point of Satan telling truth but not being TRUE. He hates anything to do with GOD, therefore Satan wouldn't dream of being TRUE.
Lots to grasp, and we come expecting and hungry to do so!
My friend and I just finished our discussion of NOGS session 2 over a wonderful lunch. We ate outside on a beautiful South Carolina day with the breeze blowing, and for a July day in SC that is a minor miracle in itself! We talked about waiting on God, about competition, about the devil telling us what's true but never telling us the truth, and how we are so prone to fall for it. Even though we are going through differnt trials, we can relate to each other's situation. What has been such a blessing to me is the ability to do Bible study one-on-one with a best bud...to have time to sit and chat especially during the busyness of summer. A blessing that was totally unexpected! What an AWESOME God!
I am soooo excited I get to see Siesta mama tomorrow night and Saturday morning!
Can't wait to see all the LPM Live!
Ufda, can't wait to give you'all dat dare a Big Minnesoooot"a" Welcome! :)
I log on and read all the comments after wataching the video. I am not comfortabe commenting. But when I read littlerad's comment I had leave a comment. When I was 6 I was burned over 70% of my body. My mom and dad told me this is not what defined me - not what was on the outside but on the inside. I had 5 brothers and sisters and they never made a remark about it and if anyone else did dad always said that God had a special purpose for me to let me live. (the doctors had told them that i didn't have a chane of making it.) But Satan told me I wasn't worthy of being loved even with this great family suport. I was saved when I ws 16 and tried very hard to live like God wanted me to but I couldn't do it. I needed approval and did things I wasn't proud of to get it. When God finnaly ogt my attention my making sure that I was being still and listening to God (Very Sick in the hsopital and not allowed vistors)I turned my life over to God to become the Lord of my life depending on him for my needs. I thought I had idols undr control until this study. God is presently sifting me to bring me to where he wants me. Thank you for this study and all the women who comment. I have learned so much and God is still showing me things that I overlook evey time I read the comments.
We met last night (Mom, Grandma, and I) and had a wonderful time. We made the Caprese Salad from the workbook as well as Corn on the cob, watermelon, and ham. For dessert, we did the apple crostata and it was heavenly!
Over full bellies, we discussed Weeks 3 and 4. We spent the majority of our time talking about how Satan will tell us what's true but not necessarily the truth. How this is true in so many situations, where Satan leads you to generalize one incident to the future. We were challenged that we have to know God's Word and the Truth that He tells us, so that we won't fall prey to Satan's lies.
We also talked alot about the difference between idolizing someone and loving them. Ironically, in our lives, this positive transition occurred after we realized that they were just humans. We saw their weaknesses and that they were not perfect. Humans are never meant to wear the shoes that only God can wear, and fill the holes that only He can fill. (On a side note- this is one reason why I love this blog! We see you for who you are- a human, who has weaknesses, hurts, and bad days- just like everyone else. That's why we love you so!)
The last thing that just struck us was how much Leah and Rachel both struggled- We had never realized that Rachel too had idols, even though she "had it all." What an eye opening lesson!
Thanks for facilitating our discussion and for your hair tips. They were hysterical!!!! Lord, help us not to be "hairetics" and send mixed messages to our hair!
Hi Beth!
We're checking in from Mpls/St. Paul [and are so excited to welcome you here, and so sorry about the humid, rainy weather; hope you brought all your hair stuff, even though we find you quite beautiful even on your small hair days. : ) ]
Our little group of three has also been challenged and blessed by this study. Thank you so much for suggesting and facilitating it.
I have to apologize in advance for the "un-lady-like" nature of what I'll share from our studies, but it has been a "theme" since the first moments we met and is really quite fitting:
The very first time we met, as dinner was being placed on the table, we somehow got on the subject of colon cleansing. We were horrified, curious... and couldn't let it go!
So here's the thing: some of us are regular (stuff in, stuff out!); others are more clogged and need some extra help to clear out the junk (shall we call it sin and idols?!); and almost of us (sorry...) have stuff that we don't even realize is in there clinging to the walls of our insides - even if we are regular - and it is inhibiting the absorbtion of all the vitamins and minerals we take in each day; and it's keeping us fatigued and tired and less healthy than we otherwise could be. We need a good internal cleansing! (Make sense?!!)
So, in relation to this study, we are praying that God will do an amazing internal cleansing of the sin and disobedience and idols that have been clinging to the insides of our hearts -- some we didn't even realize were in there -- so that we can know and grasp and absorb more fully the love of Jesus and be filled to all the fullness of God, love and serve Him more, and be fruitful for Him.
Linda (for the girls)
PS: To the Siesta who shared about her Siesta's idol being *herself* at 25 yrs old - that rocked my insides. It never occured to me that a younger version of me could be one of my idols, but I think it has been: back when I could run long and far (now I can hardly go a block); had a nice, clean car (pre-children!); and so on... Thank you so much for sharing that. I need to let go!!!
I'm doing this summer study with a great group of women, but I wanted to comment about a personal idol I realized this past week. My father is one of my 'idols' - not in a good way. He was a cruel, abusive man who still controls me even though he's no longer alive. Through this study I've realized that an idol is something or someone that monopolizes my time, thoughts and attention - and my father does that through my continual struggle to be 'good enough' and to please him. I shared this with a counselor today and she is ready to help me work through the painful memories and let my standards be set by Christ and not my earthly father.
Flying solo but no so-low and still enjoying the summer with my favorite siestas. Great HAIR-atic tips, Beth. You think it's b/c we don't know exactly what we want but we what it to always look great ;-) I'm a clip and pony tail queen in the summer so I got the message that less is more!
Star is quite the precious little one. Happy weeks 5 and 6 to everyone =) J
We just finished up our fellowship time. We are getting so much from the study. I have a foggy issue going on that I have been praying for guidance from the LORD and more and more I think the fog is clearing! Amen. During our dscussion of question 3 regarding people we may have made into our idols, one of our ladies brought up a new side to it. Have we made ourselves idols to others by trying to fulfill all their needs or a number of other things. It really made us think on that one.
On a lighter note, two of our five ladies were in ponytails!!
We loved the Mini Cucumber Sandwiches and Banana Pudding. Thanks Melissa for passing on the yummy recipes.
God Bless,
April
My son just wave back to star your puppy as you where holding her up and waving her paw my son wave back
:)!!!
Beth I am confuseing my hair first its in a pnony tail have the time its so hot here in Tx's and if I style and fix it its of know use as soon as I walk out I pull it up.
Yes my hair doesn't know what I am trying to do. and for the recorder I love Big hair!!!!marina
I CANNOT WAIT to see you, Siesta Mama, in Minneapolis this weekend!!! I have never been to any conference before. Hopefully you'll find our "Minnesota Nice" to be true! =)
Almost everyone in our group had underlined/highlighted the quote from Michael Wells and we have all fallen victim to this ploy of the enemy far too many times.
As for the envelope - some of us are holding on with both hands, all 10 toes and our teeth. Help us Lord! :) Thanks for sharing that powerful example, it was very eye opening.
We love you and appreciate you so much!
Our group was lively and fun as usual! Our answers to the questions were:
1. Our TEENAGERS will tell us what's true, but not always what is true :)
2. Most of us have an entire mailbags filled with envelopes we won't let go of - we all agreed to continue praying about this control issue.
3. Someone in our group thought about our husbands as an idolatrous relationship turned wonderful. Many agreed that, when our relationships first started out, we IDOLIZED our husbands, but, as time moves on, we learn God is who we (as a couple) worship.
4. Lots of wonderful discussion on the Rachel-Leah story!
I'm behind, but have done enough to know those "true" things that Satan has been speaking over me continue to have a hold on me. I am having such a hard time getting it together; it's true I'm not supporting my husband as I should, it's true I'm not caring for our home, it's true I am missing the mark so often with our daughter...however, I suppose the truth is NOT that I'm a complete failure and will never get it together. I am begging God to help me claim His promises and to be an overcomer, to reveal His truth to me. I know He will prove faithful. May I prove faithful as well and relinquish any functional gods I am serving...
Questions 1.
You missed God. You had an opportunity to make things right and you did not. So, now God is distant from you and you feel bad, guilty, and there is no way of getting around this. With this lie, than I think I am doomed and I don't think I can ask again and plead my concern and my struggle. I think, black and white and that God is a bit upset with me that I did not step out and trust Him. I don't see that though I might have missed an opportunity that I can come back to Him and tell Him about it and ask again. I just feel so bad and ashamed not understanding that His love is greater than all my sin.
Question 2.
me
Question 3.
I wish I could say I have experienced this but I have not. Usually the door is shut and I have to walk away. I can only think of one friendship where I was pretty obsessive with the woman and only with time passing by and yet she was still there in a good way for me. Over the years the relationship smoothed out and I relaxed knowing tha I was loved not rejected.
Question 4.
Cost of my desparation has caused me to not focus on being creative in my work. A potential long-lasting friendship. To forget God and who He is and live in the lie that He does not care about my situations.
aea
Oops, I completely forgot to chime in Tuesday night for our little group. We are still working away together here in North Georgia and loving every minute of it!!
I thought I would die when I watched your video and my hair was in a ponytail!!! Luckily, though, it was pulled back with a new, cute barrette. Whew! What a close one :). We had our third meeting on Tuesday. We talked a lot about what is true and the truth AND really knowing the truth. We related all of that with how we are raising our children. Thank you again for organizing this study!
I'm solo. My ah-ha moment the past two weeks was Kelly's discussion of making up lies in her head. I do that all the time. I assume I know what the other person is thinking and then use those thoughts as the truth.
I honestly never realized that was what I was doing. Over the last few days when I realize that I am doing that I have stopped and asked Jesus for Grace to just STOP that behavior.
Greetings from sunset siestas! The only foot soaking during bible study this week was a baby gator lounging at our umbrella stand in the lake....ughhh...gators don't have pretty pedicured toes, it was very distracting! ( I thought of your hubby joining you girls for footsoaking in the tub!)
Looking at Leah and Rachel's desperation for approval and how we place relationships in a idolatrous context, we agreed that the ONLY way to maintain a healthy balance is to:
1. recognize who God is in my life. "O God, you are my God."Ps 63
2. Know that God has a plan for me. "For I have a plan for you...."Jer 29:11
3. pray for wisdom and discernment so we do not stray from the good life God has ordained for us. "Trust in the Lord with all your heart..."Prov 3:5
Hezekiah is my ebenezer, my rock of remembrance.
16 years ago a study of Hezekiah brought me face down before God praying for my dying husband to be spared that my young children could grow up with their father so that they might understand the relationship they should have with their heavenly Father. God granted my petition for life and gave it abundantly. Our children are grown and raising children in the Lord. Last September, God called my husband home to Glory, his work here was complete at the age of 56. My family bears witness to the mighty hand of God who is rich in mercy and lovingkindness. We submit to the will of God.
We are a big hair family, so I am a hairatic too! It was also noted that I have sticky notes on my study guide. ;)
Grandaddy says the Tuesday night dinners are great! Melissa, you are right, the crostata is very forgiving. Grandaddy said, " it tasted a whole lot better than it looked!"
I am thankful to be a siesta!
Hey Beth
you are too funny.
The study is great.
I came in late to this and just got my book.
God is so good.
it is so sad what we have to do to get our hair to a point that we feel it might be okay to step out into the world.
blessings
To Dee, Momma of 4, if you'd like to partner with someone, let me know, I'd be happy to!
Rachel and Leah hit hard this week. I have always felt badly for Rachel - childless and for Leah - loveless. But I love that Leah said "This time I will praise the Lord." and God blessed that son , Judah, by bringing Christ thru his lineage. Even then she looked at her situation and reacted. How many times has God brought me thru a hard time and blessed me and I STILL insisted on going back to where I came from. Stephen Curtis Chapman has a great OLD song "Let the Ships Burn" that keeps coming to me over this story. I want to burn the "ships" that keep taking me back to the high places of idols so that I can never return! FIRE IT UP! I am lighting the match!
Liz and I met Wed. morning for just week three homework so far. We're both loving the study and have both been greatly convicted so far. I don't have answers to your specific questions, but rather a couple of insights directly from the study so far. We both came up with specific things we wanted to cut out of our lives during the study of day 4 about media influences. No more perusal of People magazine at the checkout anymore, and no more ER just to name a couple.
I've also been doing Breaking Free and(wouldn't you know it??) this week was week 3 about obstacles and as I read the day about idols just as I was also studying NOG, I had to smile and tell Jesus how much I loved Him for bringing both studies together for me at that moment. The thoughts that came to my mind as I did both studies together were synergistic. He's just so good!
I feel like I'd made some major progress as I've thought through both studies this week in uncovering the "lies in my right hand" aka idols. For me I think the top two are excess- of stuff, food etc. (wanting more than I need), and wanting a life of comfort and ease instead of one that welcomes the inevitable challenges as a places where God is going to meet me and provide for me.
My husband is getting ready to go on his first Navy deployment to Kuwait for 8 months and I'm struggling with letting go of my idol of wanting a comfortable, predictable life as I face the uncertainty that comes along with that next life change for us. But God is so good and is working on me and my attitude tremendously! Praise God.
Lastly, I'm originally from Minnesota and am now a Navy wife from all over- right now in San Diego. My mom and my best friend are going to the conference and I wish I could be with them! You have no idea. I will be in prayer all weekend long for all of you there.
Love,
Rebekah
Nicole from South Carolina and Maria Cristina from London checking in for this fortnight's Gathering III.... Hello, Siesta Mama Beth! and hello also to the beautiful Queen Esther "Star"! thank you for introducing her to us!!!!
Forgive our delay but right after our "email" gathering, both Nicole and myself had to travel...
Siesta Mama: I can't even begin to express the bountiful blessings I am reaping through the friendship that NIcole and I are forming as a result of you starting this very Bible Study.... its set up in a public forum such as this Blog is such a refreshing approach that it is *really* transforming lives in more ways than one can imagine!
And now, without further ado...
We have four discussion questions for your Tuesday gatherings. The first two are from Week 3.
1. On p.62, Kelly quoted Michael Wells: “Satan will tell us what’s true, but he never tells us the truth.” Let’s have some examples of that. How has Satan ever told you something that was true but wasn’t the truth?
Nicole: Well, I would have to say that this for me has to pertain mostly with the timing of things. He would tell me things that were to come true but make me anxious and believe that I needed to press them to happen now, myself, and not wait on God, that I was running out of time. Big mistake! One of which I have destroyed a couple of things beleiving that lie.
Maria: the one thing that I think stands out is the fact that he would tell me that I am the worst of people, guilty of many ugly sins. That's the true statement. The un-truth comes with the fact that with that statement came a message of desperation and hopelessness, which I should have NEVER heeded. In jesus, I have my hope! There is hope for me!
2. Kelly’s discussion about King Hezekiah and the attack on his faith on p.66 reminded me of a quote that I’d recently seen in the devotional classic, Streams in the Desert. “Genuine faith puts its letter in the mailbox and lets go. Distrust, however, holds on to a corner of the envelope and then wonders why the answer never arrives.” (p.168) What envelope have you been most prone to hold the edge of?
Nicole: I am trying to overcome fear of some things. I keep holding on instead of walking out in confidence that God has me and won't let me get hurt or fall, and I know this but trying to fully surrender some of those things to God is difficult to me regardless I am determined to face them. And Maria, I am honored and humbled by your response about me here. God has been gracious and faithful to me or I wouldn't be able to utter one word to you... But thank you for the absolutely sweet interjection.!!!
Maria : What an awesome quote. I am aware that I'm holding out on TOTAL AND UNCONDITIONAL surrender - from unbelief, perhaps. I need to really, really stay in the Word and surround myself with Godly people who have the spiritual strength and "experience" (not the best of terms, but I can't think of another word at the moment) to help me overcome this hurdle. This is why I am SO THANKFUL and humbled by God's mighty help in "sending" Nicole into my life. I am so blessed to know her. She is showing me that it IS possible to surrender and live in total victory in the path that our Savior has mapped out for us.
The last two are based on Week 4.
3. Reread the first couple of paragraphs from Kelly’s intro to Week Four on p.76 concerning people-gods. Then, look up Phil. 1:9-10 and read it together. How can these two Scriptures become a huge help to us in finding the balance between loving people and idolizing them? [...] Have any of you experienced one of those wonderful occasions when a relationship endured that positive transition?
Nicole, Okay can I say Thank God for someone else who knows exactly what I have gone through and still in the last moments before gaining complete victory with?!! I am seeing a relationoship turn around for the better that I thought was totally destroyed due to my inordinate behavior. God is being very gracious to take what the enemy meant for harm and turn it around for the good!! You Go God!!!!
Maria: I really like the NLT translation of these verses: "pray that your love for each other will overflow more and more, and that you will keep on growing in your knowledge and understanding. For I want you to understand what really matters, so that you may live pure and blameless lives until Christ returns." Because of my very rebellious and sin-saturated life, it is very very easy for me to fall into idolization of those Godly women that I see are leading these blameless lives. Instead than forming a pedestal on which to stand them on, I realize that they, too, have their tribulations and dilemmas and - notwithstanding the fact that I am sympathetic - I am realizing that they, too, are - yes, Godly!- women walking the same path, that I'm treading, although they're definitely much further ahead in their walk!! …. :)
4. Lastly, review p.87 and reflect on the whole Leah and Rachel madness. Reread the bold-print section at the top of the page. What are a few costs of desperation that you yourself have paid? And what is the solution?
Nicole and Maria: We've discussed this particular question with absolute, at times painfully raw, openness. During our email exchanges on this particular issue we've discovered that Leah's and Rachel's madness parallel a lot of the deep, deep desperation we each faced in our own lives…. What is amazing to us is how God is sooo mightily, yet tenderly, sewing up our wounds like a loving Tailor -- all the while making this mending process even more soothing by way of the mutual encouragement Nicole and I are finding through the weaving of our friendship.
A la prochaine!
nicole and maria cristina
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Oh - and our Bible study continues to be a breath of sweet, fresh-mowed-lawn air to our desert souls. This week was no exception. I had the idea when reading through Colossians at the end of Session 4 to have us all write on a piece of cardstock the things (or some of them) that need to be "put to death" in our lives. Then we placed them in a deep metal bowl and burned them. As they burned we talked about how sometimes it can take some time for these things to die (thus the cardstock and not regular paper) but that eventually we are left victorious with a heap of ashes. Then I handed them another sheet of cardstock and shared with them that once these things are put to death, we are left with this - a blank slate. If we choose to do nothing, those things we just painstakingly put to death will simply be back or replaced by other "deadly" things. I gave them the assignment to go home with their paper and prayerfully write down what they want to do with the "new" space in their life that these old things inhabited.
I am convinced this would have been a deeply profound exercise had it not been with a group of young moms. As it was, they spent this time EXTREMELY concerned about the flames: Will the bowl get too hot and burn the table? Will the smoke from the flames set off the smoke alarm, and WAKE THE SLEEPING CHILDREN? Will embers float up and fall on the couch, leaving a burn mark or worse, setting it on fire...I could go on... Perhaps outside would have solved this problem, but somehow, I doubt it. We moms will be moms no matter the setting. May God bless us!
Love Ya!!! Erin
Dear Siestas, how is your memory verse coming along??? The sunset siestas played phone tag this past week and left it as messages to each other...we can never get to the phone in time so we get a spirit filled reminder followed by "TAG YOUR IT!!! CALL A SIESTA!"
I am thinking HOT POTATO for our next gathering....that idol of insecurity will surely be chipped away if we do that!
Loving this summer!
Siesta Beth,
We had our meeting on Tuesday morning with 4 of us in attendance. I don't think that we have actually had time when we were all together,(vacations)
One of the things that we discussed was how deceitful Satan can be and we don't even know it. We had good discussion time and good food to eat. (quiche, pumpkin muffins, fresh fruit and good coffee. We are all so enjoying this study and learning so much.
Love you, from New Hampshire and Vermont
Beth-
Our group was SO excited when we heard you read my post on your video! It was really a huge blessing to us and we're so glad you liked our story! It has been fun to get to know each other and we are thrilled to be doing this study together.
Love you,
Beverly in Colorado Springs
I am going solo and interacting with other siestas on the Siestas for Him site that Rachel started
here's the site for anyone interested: http://forums.delphiforums.com/siestas/start
I thought I would share my answer to question 4 as I am sure many of us have been there done that! Hopefully someone reading this might find encouragement that they aren't the only one going through or have gone through this situation.
I so hate to rehash this in my head but I was in a desperate place in college with a bad boyfriend situation-doing things a good Christian girl should not be doing. I remember pleaing and crying on my knees begging him not to break up with me-how awful! I shudder thinking about it right now. The cost I paid was self esteem and feeling like a wreck for several months after that because I let myself get caught up in the torment. But, a few months later, I met my wonderful husband and we started dating. The solution to that situation is quite simple, don't let yourself get sidetracked in ungodly relationships with unbelievers-especially if you are vulnerable and not grounded in your faith. I praise the Lord for bringing me out of that pit!
love,sarah
I so wish i could have big hair... it just doesn't stay big...
Corie
HTown
for any blogger out there. I lost my job today. I am a graphic designer in Houston. Worked at this job for almost 3 years. Then before that I was unemployed for 3 years but did freelance work and did ok. Before that I was at a job for 13 years. sad....allison
Hello Mama Siesta - Julie & Marcia (both solos doing this awesome study via email together) just checking in for this week. We both are growing and loving this study.
This study is really bringing some things to the surface for both of us to deal with and get on with serving Him the way that our awesome God should be. Struggling to trust Him with our trials and circumstances and not believing the lies of the enemy. The costs of desperation really hit home with both of us! WE loved the video.
Beth,
I just wanted to let you know, I have been bad and skipped ahead. I got the study as soon as you mentioned it because I was needing one and I trust your
recommendations. I've finished it and I have to say, it was just what the doctor ordered. I've got a long way to go, but I have finally at age 44 laid down my idols and embraced Abba as all I need. Not all I want and enjoy but all I really need. This has been a 2 year process and I'm sure it will continue, but just wanted to praise the Lord from Tennessee! :)
Mother/Daughter study we finished Wed. night-Very convicted on Rachel-Leah situation. Never before saw Rachel's sneaking idols and how it related to how we strive no matter what we may have"going for us." Only Jesus fills us. And what about that teaching on Satan tells us a truth, but it is not THE TRUTH from God. WHOA!!!! Gave us much to discuss. P.S. Our hair thanks you for instructing us on the conflicting messages we send it. May all our strivings cease!! In Jesus' Love Kathy and Steph Knoblock
I have been doing this solo. It encouraging to know I'm not the only one that falls behind, however I am sorry for you because I know how it feels. I am only a day or two behind now so not too bad. This has been a great study I am really enjoying it.
Thanks,
Lynn - OR
Oh Guys I HAVE to tell you what happened. Doing the study alone.Too knarled up to share it.Kids at camp this week. Catch up on work and read Get Out of the Pit(God bless you richly Beth seriously). I have been in pit so long believing satan's lies so long I can't even see the truth. Trying to figure out what are my Idols.Carrying arould the definition"In biblical terms" praying God show me big and plain so I can get it. On our way to Pep boys to get the tires alined reading to my husband. Studying about it in grocery store. I get home call to check on my Dad who has had a cold(dearest daddy on planet) he was short. I'm putting the groceries away and feeling sick like did I say something to make Daddy short. Nearly crying-HIT ME LIKE A TON OF BRICKS approval mostly of parents,but most anybody that walked by also. It is BIG and gold and fancy and just sitting right there where it is not suppose to be. I know it sounds stupid and obvious but I didn't see it until I thought about that line (what motivates you). It is going off I am smashing to a million pieces before my feet hit the ground every morning. I am not resposible for the happiness of everyone in my life.I can feel him pulling me out of that pit into the light.I praise him and thank him at the top of my lungs. I feeling satan saying this isn't real fall back to the old way of thinking and I am quoting scripture. I just had to tell ya'll how he made all these things come together. It's a new DAY!!!
Facilitating this study this summer has been very beneficial in increasing my knowledge of the Bible in the times in which we live. A Bible study teacher I had that has facilitated several of your studies stated: True JOY comes from having Jesus 1st in your life, others 2nd, and then yourself. This study has really made me see what I am putting 1st in my life-MY OWN COMFORT! I don't want any mental, physical, emotional, financial, or relational discomfort in my life. I am putting my own comfort over applying God's Word in my life that leads to true JOY.
Is there going to be a SIESTA gathering in Louisville? I can hardly wait!
"For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him."(2 Peter 2:19)Fear...I have allowed fear(false evidence appearing real)to be that envelope that I desperately held on to... not trusting in the Lord. Once fear got its hands on me... it branched out into so many areas of my life: pride, regrets, and poor self-esteem to name just a few.Certainly not attributes of the Most High! God is changing me in this area.I am working on a new approach: standing on God's word and doing it afaid! "For God hath not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind."(2 Tim 1:7)
Love that Star!!!
Cady
Oh Beth, thank you for sharing Queen Esther...STAR...with us. How cute and precious she is!
What a blessing I can see she is to you-all.
Thanks for praying for my daughter, Michelle. Here first chemo treatment went well and she has had a good week. To God be the glory.
Love you,
Dear Beth
This is hard to say, but all of my life I have looked to others to fill the role of parent. My parents were divorced when I was small and my mom and I moved in with an abusive family member. I have idolized many people through the years-including you.
As the tears stream dowm my face, I want to once and for all give up my idolatry of people. The only parent who can fulfill all my needs is my heavenly father!
I want to learn to love others in a healthy way but when it comes right down to it I really need a healthy relationship with the Lord!
This study is truly changing my life!
Much love!
Star is adorable!
I think this one comment hit me the hardest this week:
“Genuine faith puts its letter in the mailbox and lets go. Distrust, however, holds on to a corner of the envelope and then wonders why the answer never arrives.”
I wonder why I have such a hard time letting go and letting God... Time to let go of the envelope and wait. This time with a knowing deep within me that the answer is coming!
Hi Siestas! Germany, California and Texas checking in! My mom, sister and I are doing this from different time zones, but it's been amazing to connect when we miss each other so much. This one was definitely deep. Envelope holding: Whenever our happiness or satisfaction is dependent on a specific answer or outcome to our prayer, that is when it is hard to let go. People idols: included husband and even a life long pastor. The Leah and Rachel mess brought up newlywed yearnings, "Give me furniture or I'll die!" LOL about it now! But not so funny when spent years paying off credit card debt. We must look to I AM for our happiness. And start again the next day.
p.s. congratulations on your new baby, Queen Esther! We love her with you!
My 9 year old and I are enjoying the Bible study....God's Word has caused us to grow even closer together and we have had some very interesting conversations about false gods... she has always been a sweetheart but I can see some wonderful changes occurring in her life due to God's Word...It has changed both of our lives...She loves to say we are "nogs"...I am thankful to God for this precious time that we have together this summer....Thanks Beth!!!
Love ya bunches,
Victoria
Wow, what a lesson. We were a little late getting together. Out of pocket with grandchildren. (how I wish, but I know that will come someday). Satan is always telling us what is true, but oh boy, it is NOT the truth. This was awesome. We had some knee bending here. Phyllis
Beth, You and I have so much in common, the love of our Lord, love of bible study, our children (2 beautiful daughters, 3 lovely dogs)and a great husband but I finally realized that on the hair we are complete opposites. I have short hair because I would rather sleep longer than do all that "hairatic" stuff. Freedom, sweet freedom!!!
Of course I do dye it because at 46 I am not ready to be gray! I love your sense of humor and this bible study targets right where I am in my life now. Thanks for your honesty and your true love for all us siestas. My daughter and I are doing this study and we blog our discussion at www.savedbygrace-carich.blogspot.com
Hi Momma Siesta!
We continue to have about 12 in our group although the faces change from week to week. Some of those who have missed are keeping in touch with the disscussion questions via email. People idols really hit a nerve with our group, especially with family members. I'm praying for this next week of homework to be powerful in the lives of our ladies! Love all you Siestas!
The Panama City Mom's had to meet a week late in order for us all to make it... we all seem to be benefiting from this study in more ways than we even know... I think it's a blessing to share something so personal with people that care- We are all becoming better wives, moms, friends and servants of God.
Beth,
I have been playing catch up since returning home from Ukraine.
I am going solo. So here goes…
1. “Satan will tell us what’s true, but he never tells us the truth.”
John 10:10 “I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.”
When I was a young Christian I thought after reading John 10:10 that my life would be a bed of roses. WRONG! The enemy spoke to me and said, “You belong to Christ. Why have all these difficulties come into your life? Christ said you would have an abundant life” Jumping to confusion, I believed the myth that if I followed Christ, my life would be trouble free.
Christians are not exempt from adversity. Trials come when we least expect them. Trails are tools in the Father’s hand He uses to shape us for eternity.
2. Having enough faith to let go of the envelope is hard. This is a constant struggle for me. It seems that every time I am able to let go of one then it is not long before a bigger envelope comes along. God gently brings me along one envelope at-a-time in the process of increasing my faith in Him. I have an idea the envelopes will keep coming until I see Him face-to-face.
3. To love and be loved by others is innate in each of us. As we grow in Godly knowledge and discernment we are able to recognize and respond to any red flags God may be waving at us in our various relationships. Oh how I wish I had had discernment in times past. I remember some red flags along the way but I did not understand what to do with them.
4. All I can say is that I have never had deeper regrets or made a bigger mess of things than when taking relationships into my own hands. My best is but filthy rags.
What an eye opener No Other Gods has been!
Your new baby, Star, is precious.
Looking forward to San Antonio.
Blessings,
Mary
Hey Spiritual Mom Beth,
I have a quick, (I'll try to make it quick:) interesting story about this study: This morn., I was reading the devo.on pg.127, and at the bottom, she wrote, "We want bread, so we go after what we think is bread. But how often it proves to be counterfeit." and the ques from the verse "Why do you spend your money...does not satisfy?" Well, Sun. night, I went out to eat with a group from my church, and the restaurant we were served what looked like to me wheat bread and butter before our meal. But, I found out yest. from a girl that goes to my church that works there that the bread is white bread mixed with molasses and the butter was really margarine. I immediately thought of that this morn. when I read that section of the devo. Interesting, isn't it? I thought I was eating something much healthier for me than what I was really eating...the appearance was deceiving...interesting, huh?:)
Love ya Spiritual Mom Beth,
Blessed, happy writing and preparing to you:)
katiegfromtennessee
Hab. 3:19 YeAH! spiritual progress on our high places of trouble, suffering, and responsibility:)
I thought maybe we should have tried doing this study over the phone last week while the teens were still visiting grandparents when I asked the first question today, and one of my dear teens responded, "May I phone a friend?" But a great discussion ensued. Control was my envelope. My dear 15 year old shared that she never pictured Rachel as being desperate. And darlin 13 year old said she had never considered Isaac to be an idol.
The Lord spoke to me at the end of Day 05 Lies - Behind Every False God Lurks a Prowling Lion.
A cheap imitation, he is tryin'
To be like a lion
Make no mistake
Satan is a fake
And our adversary for sure
But Siestas, we have a cure
Although Satan is seeking someone to devour
God is our Victorious Warrior this very hour
The enemy will be laid hold of and bound
The deceiver, the liar, is going down
So be on the alert Siestas the enemys tryin'
But he's only like a lion
Satan is not the real thing
Praise You God, to You, all creation sings
You are real and no lies in You dwell
Satan's time is short before he lands in eternal hell
Yes, the devil is a fake
And his end is a fiery lake
We can resist the father of lies
By keeping our eyes on the Eternal prize
Praise You Lord, you are real
No matter what we see or how we feel
You are real
You are real
For His Name,
Lora
Just now catching up with the study. Wow! The most intense part of this for me is identifying the lies. I am being made aware of countless lies I've believed for so long, and never even challenged! Never even considered it. Ahhh! Baby just started crying...AGAIN...wish that was a lie. Great study...
sam
Well we finally got to meet tonight. Due to vacations we met a week later than the rest of you.
We ate first, of course, Cucumber sandwiches (they were delicious), and a yummy tomatoe and cheese salad with a scrumptious blueberry dessert and chocolate chip cookies.
We all loved the last two weeks of study. It really hit home for us and we had some great disussions.
On Question 1: We spoke about how the devil tells us it is bad to be fat, how ugly it is to get wrinkles and all the other messages out there. In some way they hold truth, however, he never looks at your heart. God looks at our heart. The devil is always planting doubt in our minds. Making us feel smaller. It is like advertising, the alcohol commercials show you beautiful people drinking, dancing, living it up but it doesn't show you the hangover the next morning or the person who drove drunk and just killed someone. Only partial truths not whole truths.
Question #2: We all are holding on to the corner of an envelope. Christy spoke eloquently about being fearful of letting the envelope go because we just might get what we want and then what would God require of us? Is it more than we are willing to give? Jaimie read from a daily journal which spoke just of that. It was beautiful. It questioned are we willing to stand apart, to let go of everything, friends, family, empty ourselves of ourselves so that we can meet Jesus and be filled with him. It was really speaking of everything we hold on to here on earth and was so appropriate for our Idol study.
Question #3: We spoke of the use of the word "discernment" in the scripture. Sometimes we think too much about what it is we should do and don't look to the Word to show us what to do. Or we don't go to God in prayer for what we should do. We all spoke of how we will pray for everyone else but when it comes to ourselves we simply don't ask! We need to know and remember that the people we are idolizing are human like us, make mistakes, like us. Our husbands and our children are sometimes our idols. Our expectations will never be met by People but we can always trust God at his Word.
Question #3: We all spoke of how stupid we have been! We have all done crazy things to be noticed or to be used by someone that we wanted so badly to love us! The costs of desperation are many, loss of self worth, loss of morality, loss of respect, loss of control, to name a few.
The solution is to go to the Lord for our love, for our worth for our answers. We are priceless to him, he gave his all for us, who could ever love us more!!
What an awesome evening of fellowship and sharing. I just love our group and how they are willing to open up and share. We even added a new member tonight, MaryJo. We are blessed to have her join us.
In His Love, Lori
Hey - It's your week-behind girls from Louisiana checking in! We enjoyed the chicken spaghetti, life-changing banana pudding (God bless eagle brand!) and sharing what God is revealing to us through His beautiful word! What an eye-opener to discern "true" from "truth." And to look at (and partially identify with) Leah and Rachel. Whoa. We're bracing ourselves for weeks five and six!
God bless you, sweet siestas!
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