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My ladies.
What biblical/theological/doctrinal issue(s) do you wish you were more educated about?
Love,
Melissa
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477 Comments:
1. I would like to learn about many things or should I say anything, but right now the relationship between works/fruit and salvation/love/grace. How can people who profess to be Christians live in blatant disobedience to His word? Me included!!
2. What I am sick of people bickering about is end time details and whether certain manifestations are or are not of the Holy Spirit/God.
I so appreciate this blog and thank you all for the time and effort you put into it. God bless you!
Helen Wall
Crystal City, Manitoba, Canada
I wish I were more educated on the issue of the Old Covenant vs. the New Covenant. It's always been put to me that the Old Testament is in the Bible for studying and learning from, but we are to live by the New Testament because it contains the passages regarding the Salvation Experience and the crucifixion. But is that really true? I mean, I know from reading Galatians that we are no longer bound to or saved by the law, but is the Old Testament really just a history lesson now?
The doctrinal issue that I am most interested in and frankly, need more educating on is prophecy. How I wish your mom would do a study on Ezekiel - one of my favorites.
Hey Melissa,
I appreciate your thoughtful essay's on various topics. You are very wist for your young years :)
I wish I were more educated in eschatology. I am most tired of the argument of predestination vs. free will.
Sandy
Salem, OR
I'm interested in ANYTHING except predestination. Not that it's not important, it's just over-debated and the the debates/discussions never get anywhere. I used to love tulips in my garden. Not anymore. :)
I guess the two questions could be combined for me on these issues:
Predestination/free will
Alcohol (esp. in church leadership)
Hey,
To answer the first - I feel least equipped to comprehend God's unconditional love for me. I can teach it til I'm purple t everybody else, but believing it applies to me, well, that's another story. A basic belief and what should be a simple issue, yet profound for me.
To answer the second - I'm just tired of the whole predestination/free will debate. When it comes up, I just bow out of the conversation. So many get their feelings hurt over this. I know what I believe the Bible teaches on it, but others may see it differently. I know that some denominations formed on the basis of Calvinism or Arminianism. However, at the end of the day when I rest my head, I know that I know that I know Whose I am...even though I may not always be able to articulate to some how I got to that point in a way they can celebrate. Whether I believe predestination, free will, or a bit of both does not change that fact that I am saved. My salvation is not based on this doctrine. My salvation is based on what God did through Christ's atonement. Does this make sense? And, yet, I struggle with the whole love thing...go figure.
Pour the coffee, I'm coming over! ;)
The biblical/theological/doctrinal issue I would like to take the time to become more educated about is predestination vs. free will....as BOTH are clearly indicated in scripture. (I'm just answering Melissa's question...please don't start a debate here in the comments section!)
The biblical/theological/doctrinal issue I am tired of people bickering about is the gifts of the Spirit (not all of them, mind you, just *certain* ones....why is it that some are so controversial and others are not? are they not ALL from the same Spirit?)
Great question, Melissa! I wish I really could sit down with you over coffee to discuss...I would love to know your viewpoints!
I grew up in a conservative, legalistic Baptist church. While I have a very firm foundation in doctrine, I received very little teaching about the gifts of the Spirit, speaking in tongues, healing, etc. My church's position was that they did not exist any more and if people said they spoke in tongues or someone said they were healed, it was looked upon very suspiciously. So, I guess I am desperate for some balanced, Biblical teaching on the Holy Spirit. The one issue I wish people would quit bickering about would be eschatology. I think it's important to know and believe that Jesus is coming back and have a general idea of the order of things, but I hate it when people argue about it and it ends up dividing churches and families.
Mary Lou Menning
Young America, MN
I wish I were more educated about the Calvinism vs. Arminian debate. Mostly, I want to know why people have to be so hateful about it.
I am tired of hearing people argue about alcohol and same-sex marriage. The alcohol because I think it is a tertiary issue and shouldn't be so divisive. And the same-sex marriage because so few Christians do anything to fight for healthy heterosexual marriage that I find the whole argument disingenuous.
Hi Melissa,
The one thing that keeps my son from committing fully to a relationship in Christ is something his "Bible" Teacher taught his class at Baylor.
He pointed out several items to the kids and told them that the contradicted one another. Ex: (from my son) Genesis Ch 1 and Genesis Ch 2 contradict one another about how creation occurred. I want to know more about how to find the context of scripture, who wrote it and why and how to answer questions like that, when my son comes up with them...Love to you and all the LPM Fam!
also, off topic: but this was on MSN today...very very sad comments...
http://www.newsweek.com/id/200442?from=rss
Well, I've loved the Lord since I was 5. I've always kind of gone off of my heart. So I WISH I had more knowledge in my head. People (like my husband) who ask tough questions that I have no answers for. I've realized in the last few years that I need to have head knowledge not just heart knowledge!
I don't have specifics on what I'd like to know more about - all of it, I guess. :)
As for what I get tired of hearing people bicker about? The sad thing is that I don't hear people bicker about doctrinal issues that much. They either just ignore them or rationalize them away. I wish people were more fiery about right and wrong - I sure am! :)
Thanks Melissa!
More education about: Free will vs. God's will ie: making wrong decisions/bad choices affecting God's ultimate will for our lives or God's directing our lives for His plan and purpose for each of us.
Less bickering about: baptism. It's all about the heart!!!
The doctrine of sanctification, the mystery of "Christ in you the hope of glory,", the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. There is so much misunderstood about this and yet it is so essential in our understanding of growth in walking with our Savior. So many churches are all into doing, so few talk about what it means to "be." Living Proof does a great job of this though!
Oh Melissa. It's so funny that you posted this - well, it's so GOD that you posted this! I have been a SAHM for 23 years, but have a degree in Home Economics/Interior Design (the only way to get the one was to get the other back in the day!). I've been deeply involved in Women's Ministry for the last 10 or so years and just in the last few months, I've had a stirring in my heart to go back to school, actually, seminary, for a Masters in Biblical Studies! So, in answer to your question, there are a LOT of questions that I want answers to, and have thought more than once that I would dearly love to sit with you (and your mom, for that matter) and hash some of this stuff out.
Who knows what God has in store for me...I'm taking this post, however, as another confirmation that this is really what He's trying to tell me!
Hugs to you this day,
Melinda
In 1 Samuel 28, it describes how Saul sought out a medium so that he could ask questions of Samuel's spirit, even though Samuel had already died, through a seance. It appears that Samuel's spirit does appear, and communicates with Saul.
While I understand that mediums, spiritists, and seances are not condoned within God's word, I'm confused why and how Samuel's spirit could appear to Saul through this means, and seemingly deliver God's message? Can you shed some light on this?
Yay :) So glad to see you on here today (and with great questions, to boot!).
To answer...
#1: I don't know about any issues per say, but I just wish I understood and knew more about the actual history in the Bible.
I watched a preacher on t.v. recently who was talking about when God brings us to that point in time when we are meant to do something RADICAL for Him (kind of like when "all of the stars align", if you get my metaphor). Anyway, he brought up the story of when Elizabeth -who was barren- got pregnant with the babe who would eventually preceed our beautiful Savior (as in, John the Baptist!)
Mary not too many months later became pregnant with Jesus, and God chose to bring Mary to Elizabeth at just the perfect time.
Elizabeth was six months along, which meant she was physically showing ~ there was no question as to whether or not she was actually pregnant. Meanwhile, Mary was still digesting how on Earth God could have made her pregnant when she'd never actually done it. :) BUT after seeing Elizabeth pregnant, it must have made the miracle in Mary's own womb all the more real to her. The best part came when the two ladies met, and baby John LEAPED in Elizabeth's womb. The pastor likened that to when two destinies meet; there is this insatiable, unavoidable awakening. I guess I had really never thought about how two of the most beloved and important men in all of history~ one who paved the way and one who BECAME the way~ had met prior to birth :) I've read the story tons of times, but never really seen it in my mind until it was explained that way.
As far as #2: I get annoyed with people who try to undermine the validity of the Bible. I feel like I've had the same conversation with people over and over again about this, and the sad thing is that their opinions on the matter are unfortunately shaped by ignorance. Just saying, "There's no WAY that anyone could be able to write a book about things that happened 100 years prior and get it all right."
Hello?!?!?! Is that really an argument?!?!?
I liken it to the Holocaust. That happened 70 years ago, but even TO THIS DAY we are still coming out with documentaries and books on the aftermath of that horrific moment in history. The view being written about NOW is from the children who were left behind, while their parents were taken~ about their story of survival and how they took care of each other. It took nearly 70 years for that story to come out. And that's with the luxury of having the internet and cable television!!
When you think about Jesus dying on the cross and all of the people who were involved...imagine how long it would have taken to collect all of those stories, all of those perspectives. For those who knelt at the cross while it was happening, for those in the village who noticed the storm a-brewing, for the Priests who were there when the Temple split in two~ not to mention ALL who were healed or prayed for or taught throughout Jesus' ministry. There's no doubt in my mind that it took our fearless authors YEARS and YEARS of research in order to become scholars on the subject. Know what I mean?
Anyway, sorry this is so long, but you asked for it LOL. I'm sure I won't be the only one :) :) :)
Love, love, love,
Leslie <3
I apparently need more friends like you to talk to because most of mine can't answer/have deep conversations like this that I think I'm yearning for. I'd like to know more about...everything! I feel like there is so much I don't know.... But I can narrow it down for you if that would be helpful. Things I struggle answering to a non believing husband other than with 'because it's just what I believe':
(1) How to prove that God created the earth and it's not the big bang theory/evolution? I know the scriptures in Genesis but that isn't enough for him.
(2) How to prove that the bible even though interpreted and has many translations it is the word to live by. And that God is who he says he is and no I'm not wrong in my beliefs.... that I'm not going to wake up one day going 'ohhh XXXX religion was the way to go'. (There are more but it frustrates me to even write out)
(3) Does God give us choices in life and based on the choices we make we have different consequences? Or is there only 'one way' for us to go and we just think we have choices. I.E - was I right in marrying my husband or should I have walked away before I got into this mess? Or was this planned from the beginning and no other man was out there for me as 'my choice'.
Sorry just thoughts I've been wrestling with for awhile now so I figured I'd take my opportunity to ask, since you were asking, and since you have such a strong understanding of God's word, along with your mother and sister too. Figured I'd throw it out there and see if any responses were going to be given... :)) Have a great weekend!
Much Love,
Siesta in Christ
I, too, love to hash out the details...some of which "matter" and some of which don't...I just love to dig in anyway. God's Word is SO full, and there is always SO much more to see/learn/find.
I have a friend who is just "coming out of" a hypermanic episode where she had to be hospitalized and did not sleep for 16 days, quoted scripture interspersed with claims that Satan and demons were chasing her. I mean, full-blown mental breakdown. I have never known anyone going through such a thing, but we fasted, prayed, prayed scripture over her, elders anointed her with oil and prayed over her, called on Jesus' name, and more. The more we fought this battle, the harder Satan seemed to fight back. Until he was defeated. And she has come out of this (with medication, although meds were a part of the scenario all along), praise GOD!
But I am really digging in to spiritual warfare in a way I never have before. Never had a real calling to dig into that, you know? Beyond the basics of what I need in everyday life (armor of God and such). I remember your mom saying that a believer can be oppressed, but not POSSESSED. She was definitely oppressed. This is a difficult subject because the church I come from ("church of Christ") has not talked much of this kind of thing in the past. And what of this is mental illness and what is demonic? The demonic descriptions in the bible sure sounded exactly like what she was experiencing.
Sorry this is so long! Next time I'll blog it and leave a link :)
Can't wait to see what others are thinking about, too...
I wish I were more educated on talents and gifts given by God, the Holy Spirit and Jesus. I would love to learn more about how to get in touch with these and to best use them in the ways God desires!
I am tired of hearing about the theology referencing end times.
1a) I love it when the OT links with the NT. I wish I was more educated about how to figure it all out. When it is revealed in a sermon or a Bible study it glares at me in the face, and I think, now why didn't I ever notice that myself?
1b)I would love to dig deeper into the concepts of the grace, mercy and love of God.
2) I wish people would stop with the speaking in tongues issue, end times stuff, and fundmentalism. Why do we need to focus on issues that cause division? Let's focus on things taht bring unity in the body.
OK...I am going to just say it. I am tired of hearing what the true evidence is of being filled with the Holy Spirit(Is it speaking in tongues?)...My background, raised Baptist, married a wonderful man from a Pentecostal background,we attend Assembly of God church(which I love but don't necessarily agree with this issue). Melissa, can you sense my trouble??
Stacie
(Baptist Girl at Heart)
I'm not sure I am answering this the way you wanted, but here goes:
1. I really want to know more about the culture and the festivals and the biblical history. I think I miss too much of the depth and richness of the Scriptures, because I don't know the history to the level I desire.
2. People who get too caught up in the literal meanings of scripture that is taken out of context! And sometimes, you just need to trust God's word, because IT IS GOD'S WORD! It doesn't matter if we like it!!!
(I need to quit now and go get more caffeine.
What drives you crazy Melissa?
Kim . . . who is
Grafted by Grace
What does the Bible say about drinking alcohol? The best I can tell, the Bible doesn't explicitly state that we can't drink, but it does warn against getting drunk and the dangers of drinking. I feel like I am in a very small minority of people who do not drink and I'm just curious what the Bible really says about it and also what your perspective is on the subject.
Thanks!
Melissa, I am so glad that I'm not the only person like this. :) My husband is in seminary right now and he told me he is going to enroll me in the doctorate program because I ask so many questions! I have recently become very interested in theonomy because I have been doing some reasearch on patriarchal beliefs and some of it really worries me. Anyway, I mostly just wanted to let you know I'm glad I'm not the only one who is entertained by these discussions!
Well, you're mighty brave to ask us such loaded questions, Melissa! I definitely wish I understood more of God's perfect will versus submissive will. Why does He let bad things happen to us when He could totally avoid them for us? To be specific, my Dad committed suicide. Where was God's hand in that? I have seen His hand in it plenty of times since then, but still, why did he allow that to happen? Also, I definitely wish I understood more of The Old Law and The New Law / Covenant. I'm not sure I'm even saying that correctly. Basically, I get confused with the whole Messianic Jewish faith. So, are you going to answer all of our questions for us?!?!? :)
I am most curious about the time in Jesus' life after he was found in the temple talking with the teachers as a child and his first appearance as the prophet and Son of God. I think of the times my children were 13-16 and how I would have boarded them out to school if possible and wonder about Jesus' life then.
I am most tired of arguing with certain men (my husband) about women's roles in our faith!
I wish I knew more about free will vs. God's will- I know that we can miss opportunities He provides for us to do His work and that scares me, is there anything worse than the thought of possibly missing our calling? I wish I could understand the tension between those two- because I know that in all things He works for our good, so even if we miss an opportunity He does what He can to turn our choices into good and toward Him? I am just very curious when I look back at my life choices and attempt to dissect whether I blew it or that was what He willed...
What a fun post!
Now for what I'm tired of (and am so afraid to broach it that's how tired of its contention I am)-- I am really over all the rancorous political debate over gay marriage and how God is used in ways that have gotten pretty ugly on both sides.
Can't wait to hear everyone else's!
Melissa............I want to study the gifts without someone telling me they have ceased or scaring me half to death, either end is the sadest thing we could do with such an awesome blessing! I could sit and have a pot of coffee with you for hours if you would let me! Everyone runs from this topic and I know for sure God is telling me we are missing the impossible because we have quinched the Holy Spirit!
My answer to both questions is the same. The issue of alcohol. Man oh man...the "issue" irritates me to no end.
Instead of pointing one Scripture verse or another to prove my position, I get my view from what I consider to be the whole counsel of Scripture.
I know Paul said to "use a little wine" for your stomach. The key word in that to me is "little." Paul also said "don't be drunk on wine, but on the Holy Spirit" and that deacons should known to not "indulge in much wine."
If we take all of that away, and we look at purely secular issues related to alcohol. We can see that most all crimes commited involve alcohol. Rape, murder, domestic abuse, vehicular manslaughter...just to name a few.
Yet, we see more and more Christians accepting alcohol into their life. Irritates me to pieces, embarasses me, and it hurts me for them.
In my opinion, it has become a form of stronghold management in the lives of many believers.
It is my prayer that anything, including alcohol, that the enemy uses so blatantly to steal, kill, and destroy will be obvious to God's children as something to not fool around with.
I have many people that I truly love and truly respect that see it differently. We can serve God together and love each other in spite of our differing opinions, but man...
well, i've ranted enough. Can't wait to see others.
Hey Melissa,
I know there are biblical/theological issues that I definitely need to know about, but I can't think of anything for certain right now. As I've posted before, it's over my head. Now, my husband is so into all of that. He is actually pursuring a Masters of Religion through Liberty. Honestly, sometimes, I'm very interested, others times, I get frustrated b/c I get sick of it. My drastic life change is my ministry and I'm like Amanda, one on one. Talking to people about my tesitmony. God never fails to provide opportunities. I've found that when I pray for opportunities, I better watch out b/c they pour in. Some people except it and some don't. He has taught me lessons in that. I know the biblical/theogical things are very important and I'm hoping that I can grow in that. Right now, when I try to read my husband's awesome books, it's just over my head.
2) The biggest thing I get tired of hearing people bicker about are things that I feel are mysteries and not for us to completely understand. I may be way off point, but I get so tired of hearing about predestination, etc. It really urks me when it starts in S.S. class or after class disscussons b/c I feel like we are blowing our witness to newcomers and discouriging believers that are tired too. I also get tired of the "wishy washy" feel good preaching. There is a difference between Pharisidic legalism and obedience to God and keeping our witnees going strong. I just wish people would drop the petty stuff too. It really gets old.
What topic would I like more education about? Amillennialism, Historical Millennialism, Dispensational Millennialism, and everything that goes along with it...end time events...life after death...and so on and so forth. I have heard teaching on it throughout my lifetime, but I have never combed through it all to completely solidify MY position on it.
What am I tired of? The how/when/what of baptism.
Thanks for asking. I am looking forward to the issues that other people address.
Becky
I am not struggling with or seeing either of these things--just struggling with the mundane dailyness and kids bickering in the summertime. I am trying to make the most of every opportunity, though!
I guess I have to stick to the simplicity of "Jesus loves me this I know, for the Bible tells me so."
That's enough for the day.
I'm with you Melissa, although I am not a reserch assistant; I wish I had more gals to discuss the thrills of study with as when I talk to my mom about it, there is a moment when her eyes glaze over and I know I've bored her. Not with the bible but she I don't think shares the dame kind of thrills I do all the time.
One question I have is (I know it's stupid) but is about the words Doctorine and theology? I think we hear so often the Gospel, but the rest of the vocabulary can get fuzzy real fast. Biblical issues are easier to discuss but, watch what happens when you ask someone, "what is your theological stance on this issue?"
Confusion!
My other comment is I don't understand why people bicker over the wars with the middle east like it is something we can control! Why do people bicker about wether this is a prophetic/holy war?
I wish we could settle that once and for all.
Oh, and the thing I am so tired of hearing about is Calvinism......I have a hard time with poor Mr. Calvin's name all together. I think he was an awesome man of God, but why does it MATTER! We should witness as though we were all called, yet rest in the grace that we were chosen! Sorry, maybe it was the peeps at our church or the fact that I have unsaved family members, but I do NOT like that topic!
K
Oh and Melissa - what is the definition of heritic and Exergesis?
Melissa,
I have always thought that it would be a delight to sit and drink coffee with you. I do admit, some of the words and terminology your mom and you have shared in the past make me a little nervous. I have had to look up a few things more then once. You do like shoes, hair and missions so I believe we would get along just fine.
As for your questions
1- I would love to know more about end times~ revelation is one of THE last books I would turn to, pun intended(luv you Beth) and I would like to be able to read it understand and be able to apply to my life some of the things that HE is saying.
2- I am so tired of the conversation about tongues. I grew up in a charismatic church and now that I have studied and learned a lot more about the Word, I am tired of the bicker about tongues being the evidence to whether you are filled with the Spirit or not. As I have been on this journey there have been women of God that have helped me be who I am today and they did not speak in tongue but they def had the Rhema word of God for my life.
Would like to know more - Women in the church (deacons,staff,teaching,preaching)
1) wish you were more educated about? End times prophecy
2) are you tired of hearing people bicker about? Calvinism
"Once Saved, always saved", Infant baptism, no drinking or dancing
Melissa,
Well - these comments are going to be fun to read!
I'm tired of hearing about women in ministry and the church (ie egalitarian vs complimentarian etc.) I'm thinking it's forever going to stay a debate, and forever something that will be around for me since I'm a woman. But I'm over talking/reading/debating about it. I am who I am, and I bow to Jesus! Lord, help me bow and order me down when necessary :)
I did your mom's Inheritance study and wish we had another 10 weeks to dig into it! So, this is what I would like to learn more about :)
Holly in Houston
Happy Friday Melissa!
Thanks for asking . . .
On the "Educated" issue, I would like to know a really informative book (or your advice) on reaching out to Jehovah Witness's within your own family.
When my father re-married 25 years ago, he became a Jehovah Witness.
:( Crushed my heart, we're close.
My husband and I have stood our ground in our belief in God and continue to.
I want to be able to share the Trinity in a better way with him. (not sure if this is possible) I don't believe they live much by faith either, more works. So that is huge for me. Just having him believe by faith!
Through the years I have prayed and prayed and studied what I can. And I need to study more... I know it's harder to witness to a family member when they're a "witness" but I just feel a constant conviction that I'm not doing enough! I love my dad and it kills me when I think about it all.
I KNOW God sees and knows my heart, but I feel I need more guidence in this area.
Thanks again for asking and I appreciate you.
Kim
Melissa,
My greatest question deals with God's permissive will and His perfect will. Perhaps this is kind of petty. I don't know though. I have heard much talk in my church about it and it confuses me.
I also am confused about the reaping what you sow. How long does the reaping continue? It seems that there are some decisions I made in my life a very long time ago that I am still reaping the consequences for.
Kels
Thank you for being so interested in us.
1. Baptism of the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues. Why are so many in the Body of Christ silent about this, and why are so many in the Body of Christ obsessed with this? Is there a balanced perspective based on Truth? What is it?
2. Calvinism vs. Arminianism.
What I wish I were more educated about: the issues around the congruence of church and state. What is the responsibility of the Christian in society? Why is the conflation of Christianity and America so prevalent, and what is that about? Can you be a Christian and (dare I say it?) a Democrat? I'm genuinely curious, but it's hard to find a balanced reading that doesn't whap you around the ears with adjectives.
I'm pretty tired of hearing the invective tossed around with regard to controversial issues.
I would love to have more information on other world religions. I work on a liberal college campus where many belief systems are embraced. I am a Christian, and I believe the Bible with no doubts - but it is difficult for me to discuss my faith with people who say "But floods are recorded by other religions" or "Jesus was a good man, but so was Confucius." Or "you just believe what you believe because you were raised in the Bible Belt."
About the bickering among Christian, I think we major in the minors, rather than majoring in the majors. So the minors keep our focus off the majors.
Minors: worship style and music, method of baptism, how we observe communion, etc.(We may disagree on some of these things, but when we get to heaven, we will all learn that we were wrong about some things, but that we were loved, forgiven and accepted by Jesus in spite of our misunderstandings).
Majors: trinity, resurrection, eternal life
Satan does not want us to major in the majors. If we do we are a stronger body of Christ.
1. I wish I was more educated about the Trinity. I understand the Three in One and One in Three concept in my heart but when in a position to explain it...well...I can't.
2. End times. Pre - Post - Mid tribulation.
These are great questions!
I would like to learn more about using Scripture to win the battle for the mind. What Beth calls "wielding" it. Learning it and obeying it, I understand, but how exactly do you wield it?
As for the second question, I'm going to respect the nature of this blog and try to tread delicately here. I wish Christians would be careful how they conflate theological issues with political issues. I believe in taking the positions that come closest to a Biblical worldview and voting accordingly, but I know a number of other believers who are striving to do the same thing and who end up voting opposite to the way I do because they perceive different moral priorities. I don't agree with their priorities, but neither do I question their salvation.
I hope this does not give offense, but I am pursuing a profession notoriously dominated by skeptics and non-believers. Trust me that this is huge in my sphere of influence and has a great impact on how evangelical Christians are perceived.
Want to know more about:
Covenants (in Old and New Testament).
Tired of:
Liturgy.
Blessings,
Mary
I grow weary of hearing people coming up with all kinds of ways and long explanations on how to get to heaven, but not calling it Jesus.
What I wish I were better educated in...just how do I love my enemies? What does that really look like?
Girl, you crack me up! If we knew each other I just know we'd be best friends. I drive my friends crazy with the "deep issues" I always bring up, they tell me I am just too intense.
Anyway, here are my answers...
1. I recently learned the term "syncretism" and it has fired me up and caused me to think about everything I do and whether I am doing it b/c society has convinced me it's "part of life" and if I'm doing something I'm not even realizing I will have to answer to God about one day.
I am also burdened by today's teens and their spiritual future. I heard Voddie Baucham speak and then read his book and I really don't want my kids to grow up and leave their faith. Our youth group at church tries, but I wonder if we're doing enough to raise up a generation of Godly kids who will positively impact this world. I am constantly reading about this issue and seeking some solutions... how to teach a teen about real life, practical faith.
Finally ( I told you I am intense). I wish I knew more about old testament law vs. new testament convenant. I wonder why we don't still observe the sabbath or focus more on some of the Biblical feasts and celebrations. I know my denomination's answer is that we don't do that b/c it was the O.T. law, but I want to know more - why? why? why???I am going to study about church history in the middle ages next year with my kids(homeschool), so hopefully I will learn more about how Christianity developed from the time of Christ, Paul,and the early church to now.
2. I am tired of people bickering about "the Church" -- tradtional services vs. contemporary, King James only vs. NIV, The Message, etc., I wish we could just w-o-r-s-h-i-p authentically and that's it! God speaks to people differently through different types of worship and scripture.
I am also tired of the emphasis on being "politically correct" as to not offend someone. Isn't part the point of Christianity and faith in God letting Him decide truth and right & wrong and humans not trying to change that with the times??
Just my "2 cents"- can't wait to read the rest... And, do tell us yours!!!
Michelle
Melissa,
What a great idea!
I wish I were more educated about a lot of theological things - I love theology!!!- but the first thing that came to mind is that I wish I were more educated about the doctrine of the Trinity. I love the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, but sometimes I just don't get them. Who am I praying to? Who does what? They're three in one, yet they each do different things? Huh? It's so interesting and unfathomable.
And I wish people would stop bickering about women in leadership. There are bigger issues at hand, there's a Kingdom we need to be advancing, so I wish people would just let God use who He wants to.
Jessica
What I would like to know more: Giving to the needy, orphans, and widows. What is our role as Christians when it comes to caring for the less fortunate around us? Do you give to the beggars on the street corners? It doesn't sit right with me to drive by them when I have a dollar or two to spare. Is this my own thing or is it the Holy Spirit asking me to give? Christians are all over the place on what to do. I would like to learn more what the Bible has to say about it.
What I am tired of hearing about: Free will or predestination. Does it really matter this side of Heaven? I don't really think so.
Thanks!
I don't know if this is really an answer to your question - but I would love for your mom to make a study of the book of Ruth. It's my favorite (other than Isaiah ... and I've done Breaking Free...wow).
I guess I'm just over the bickering all together. It serves no purpose. We need to be like iron sharpening iron - not arguing to be right. We all need to put a little more love into our words and actions and less pride/ego.
I'd like to learn more about the kind of faith that moves mountains.
I'm tired of this Calvinism vs. Arminian debate. It seems like people argue the point for 1. to sound smart 2. to win more than they argue it as a conviction (if that's what you would call it). When that conversation starts I like to say: You win and walk away.
1. Better understanding of end times/Heaven. These are things that freak me out a little.
2. Tolerance. To be honest. Those that sugar coat sin and accept it as truth because it is politically correct.
What biblical/theological/doctrinal issue(s) do you wish you were more educated about?
I wish I understood and was better able to refute Christian Universalism. I have read some about it but I can't seem to wrap my mind around where they get their beliefs? I have some family that subscribe to this belief.
What biblical/theological/doctrinal issue(s) are you tired of hearing people bicker about?
I am tired of all the division about the fruits of the Holy Spirit, being filled with the HS or speaking in tongues. I have seen it cauise many divisions and know that God only meant it as a gift and a growth in our relationships with him. Not as a hill to die on theologically speaking.
I have enjoyed studying reformed theology. At one time this was a very sticky subject at my church. I delved into it because I was determined to see what all the "drama" was about. In the meantime what I found was more of my Heavenly Father Himself! By His grace, knowing God has become a delight and a passion in my life. I am also fascinated by covenental theology. I grew up in church and knew all the "seperate pieces" of the Bible, but I have just recently been able to put those pieces together to see the BIG picture of the Bible.... the fascinating drama of redemption from beginning to end! Our God is AWESOME!
that's easy!
1. End times
2. Alcohol
Sheesh! Just reading the comments makes me want to be more educated about a lot of things! But, I do remember specifically a question in the Daniel study about "Which mystery do you wish God would reveal in your lifetime?" My answer was easy--creation!! I have plenty of academia under my belt, but I'm sick and tired of being told (directly or indirectly through various media sources) how dumb I am because I believe God created everything. So, I'd love to be more educated on that subject (on the off chance God doesn't reveal it in my lifetime :) so that I can better state His position!
And, I'm almost embarrassed to admit that I'm probably most tired of the bickering over abortion. I've never heard anyone change anyone else's mind in either direction by most any means (the heartbreaking incident of last week only solidified the pro-choice stance, I'm sure). And, while I think abortion is the 21st century holocaust, straight-up arguing isn't the road to change.
Thanks for a chance to vent a little, Melissa!
I filled in leading a non-denom. group on the study of Esther. Wow, I am not as smart as I think! There is so much I need to learn. However, what comes to mind for me is the work/power of the Holy Spirit. I guess our church just never talked about that a lot. Thanks.
Melissa,
I don't know if this falls into the category for the first question or not, but here goes. I wish I knew the references to all the Bible verses that come to my mind in discussions I have with others. It is frustrating when all I can say is,"I know it is in there somewhere!" I also don't want to misquote Scripture to anyone. Being in the Siesta Memorizing thing is helping a lot in that area, but I have a LONG way to go.
As for the second question, I think it would be about spiritual gifts, and who has which ones and what does that mean?
Thanks for making us think! I also get frustrated when, in my head, I have a good explanation for something, but getting it to come out of my mouth in an understandable way is very challenging for me.
Having a GREAT day with God,today, and praying it follows me to work tonight! Love all you girls!Have a wonderful weekend! Joan
Hi-
I'm not sure this is a doctrinal issue but personally I have trouble balancing submission to the will of God about an issue (where it seems clear the situation is not God's will - i.e., there's sin involved)and the call to persevere in prayer. How do we know if it's time to surrender as Christ did - "not my will, but Thine be done" or if we're called to believe even though we don't see any hope of an answer. If we take steps to meet the need, when are we getting in God's way?
In depth discussions about spiritual topics usually don't tire me although I wish more people were at peace about election and free will. They're both in scripture so they're both true (nothing like oversimplification...) There's a number of issues in the Bible where it seems both sides can't be true at the same time but since we're talking about God - any limitations would only be on our side.
Always love reading what you have to say, Melissa!
Love you guys!
Becky B.
Hi Melissa!!!
Oh, I feel so ignorant on so many levels. I've got Gurdem's "SysTheo" book recommended by a Moody Friend and I've enjoyed learning so much!! But I still wish I could understand 2 things a bit better:
1) the predesination/free will tension. The Bible speaks to both but I'd like to flesh that out more! Also, I've heard mention "The Open View of God" and I'd like to figure out what that means.
2) the Holy Spirit, how He works, His role in the Church and the Believer's life in the 21 century! Often I sense that I take over His job and I think that if I were to know his role as "Helper" I would be better equipped to live life in Him/by His power.
As for my frustrations: I really would like people to quit bickering about Worship Styles. There's so much arguing over that, sometimes that I think our services are "preformed" Fear and not really worship at all!! Don't be too demonstrative, be sure to be somewhat demonstrative, only hymns, only mondern worship songs, video, no Multimedia. It's enough to drive this girl crazy. I want people to enjoy all of it!! To enjoy the diversity of the Body and be thankful not everyone is like ourselves. How boring would we be?! Seriously!!
Enjoy a restful weekend with your man! We sure are ready for the weekend HERE!!
hugs and many blessings,
rachel
Hi Melissa,
1. I'd love to learn more about the teaching of Paul and sorting out what is eternal from the cultural issues of his time.
2. I'm tired of the bickering in the Body about infant vs believers baptism. I understand both, have actually done both, to me they both make sense when the infant baptism is followed up by a public profession of faith at confirmation. I'm just tired of seeing the Body of Christ get so divisive on this issue.
1. Would love to know more about . . common core beliefs. Where do most denominations stand TOGETHER?
2. Tired of hearing . . . people who think they and only they have all the answers and are unwilling to "agree to disagree."
I know I have had a lot of doctrinal pride that God has been convicting me of lately. I mean, people surely didn't just pull doctrine out of thin air! It has to have a biblical base, doesn't it? (I'm not talking about fringe/cult practices, but mainstream Christian denominations).
1. I wish I was more educated about living by the Spirit, by obedience and surrender instead of living in the flesh all too often.
2. I’m tired of people bickering about speaking in tongues and the interpretation of that. The often discussed debate from some charismatics believing that noncharismatics are not as spiritual because they don’t practice it.
1. I guess personally I am having trouble with discernment. How do I know what my gifts are? Nothing seems obvious. And, how do I know what the Lord's plan for my life is? So, I guess I'd like the predestination/free will thing cleared up a little too. Honestly, there are a ton of things that a giant mystery to me right now!
2. What I would prefer to have less emphasis on is end-times. I know it's important, but I sort of have the attitude that we should really be living like any second Jesus could come back. Not thinking that just because there was a ginormous earthquake somewhere that is it! Yes, we need to be watchful, but I think watchful of ourselves and the way we are living. For myself I know that is hard, but I want to be ready no matter when, not a chicken little - always looking for the sky to be falling.
I'd like to know more about Israelite traditions, etc. (My husband calls me a closet Jew.)
I'd like to stop talking about women's roles in the church. That discussion gets so negative and prideful. - It dishonors the Lord we're "fighting" to represent.
Amy Storms
It would be such fun to sit and talk with you, Melissa!
1) I would like to learn more about how God's vengeance and wrath (Heb.10:26-31, Deut. 32:35-42) fits with God's love. It sounds like God is bipolar!
2) I'm frustrated by people arguing about congregational priorities -- serving believers OR serving those outside the body. Can't we do both? Aren't we called to do both?!
Blessings on your weekend!
1a. I just want to know and understand the Bible better, period. I become frustrated with preachers who only preach topically. I need to know the word and understand it.
1b.I would like to study in-depth more on creation, the flood, and end-times.
2. I am annoyed with the bickering of whether or not the bible is the literal or inspired word of God. Hello! It's both- it's the WORD of God.
Thank you for even wondering. I enjoy this blog.
Gaylene
Angola, IN
My answer is the same for both. It seems I am surrounded by people who discuss predestination and I never feel confident enough to conversate about this issue. WHile I would love to know more about what God's word says about it, I am also tired of hearing the two sides bicker over it.
I would love to really discuss this -- how far away are we in the average American Bible-believing church, from living like people in the N.T. lived? For instance, I know in other parts of the world, people are regularly healed and some even raised from the dead. In America, not so much. Why not? And how do we need to adjust in order to really live just how the Bible tells us to live?
I'm tired of hearing debates about "styles of worship""seeker-friendly issues" and things that are simply opinion when all is said and done anyway, and not actually theological in nature. I believe it just serves to divide us and detract from the message of Christ to the dying world.
I wish I knew more about Jesus between his last breath on the cross and when he appeared to the Marys. Where was He and why did He wait so long?
I don't think bickering is all that bad - if it gets people digging in the scriptures. But sometimes I do get tired of hearing "my opinion".
1) Old vs. New Covenant. Also, sometimes when I read the Old Testament, I think I percieve God a certain way, sometimes even unfavorable with all the wiping out of every man, woman and child... Then I see Jesus as love Himself, and I have a hard time connecting the two "personalities" if you will. I hope I don't offend by the way I worded this question, I'm not really sure how to say it better.
2) I think Christians bicker a lot about tolerance of sin, in that they put sins into categories and judge one to be worse than another.
I would like to know more what God deems
appropriate worship! I know that 1 Corinthians speaks of Orderly Worship but we see so many styles in so many churches! Thank you as this prompts me to ask the Holy Spirit directly. What does He want? I always want to go down on my knees! Oh, and I love the cookie brownie bars by Betty Crocker but I can't stop thinking of them since you posted them! :)
Love,
Michele
-I wonder why it is so easy to belive without a doubt my prayers will be answered for others but I don't really believe the prayers for me will be answered.
-I wonder like someone in the Bible (can't think of who)why I do what I don't want to do and the things I want to do I don't.
I would like to be more educated about women in ministry - why are there not more vocational opportunities compared to men in ministry, things like that.
I get tired of the bickering about predestination. When it comes right down to it, when I have engaged in these conversations, it seems to boil down more to semantics than actual differences in theology.
I have questions about the Emergent Church. Good Theology vs Bad Theology. I was very mislead in prior years with the "Faith Prosperity Movement" and have since gone to the opposite side of the fence, but now God has really led me back to the middle. "Fundamental Truths and Valid Experiences."
I remember the Bible study, "The Beloved Disciple" and the understanding that I gained through it. And then "Believing God" and I guess where I am stuck now is "God's Promises" and how to discern what God is giving us. I know that some promises are conditional.
I just finished Esther, and gained alot more understanding....but sometimes a little confused about walking out the promises that have to do with our destiny...does that make sense?? Anyways I love the questions that you present and I loved the "Chasing Lions" quote. Just trying to walk in God's "Best Thing" for my life....in the middle of a crossroads right now and have a few questions regarding "Faith and The Promises."
1. I love hearing about grace and walking in the Spirit. I always need reminding to let go of the checklists and surrender to Him.
2. I'm am done with any list of "shoulds". And am so tired of "proving" God. I also despise any non-loving or judgemental act done in Jesus' name.
I wish I had a better knowledge of the work of the Holy Spirit, the wrath of God and how it works together with his overwhelming love, just how much we are supposed to love and care for our planet/nature when there are so many people out there who need our care and $$. Also, I don't think there is enough solid, Biblical teaching (mostly within our churches) about homosexuality because it is such a hot-button issue.
Things I'm tired of hearing bickering about are predestination and end times.
Hannah
The biblical area i'd like to learn more about is related to how we interact as a community of believers. When should we confront friends who may be behaving in a way we don't like (but not necessarily sinning) and when do we need to just "bear with others"?
I would like to have a better grasp on what the Bible teaches about end times and on the different schools of thought concerning it. I've heard teaching and done studies, but for some reason it just never seems to stick in my mind.
Maybe it's because it's not taught and preached on as often as so many other things, or I've just not been taught with a resource that lays things out in plain enough fashion. Or maybe I tend to forget because I don't "use" the info the way I do other truths that help me in my spiritual walk. Or am I the only one who stays confused about it all???
1. The OT timeline; people groups, connecting the dots of Biblical time and archological time. For example, I have a very fundamentalist, godly, great friend who absolutely denies that dinosaurs even exhist. I'm like what?!?
2. Women's roles in the church. What Paul exactly meant my women teaching men. All of that makes me want to scream and shout and then just say to those wanting to keep a sista down "well, you just miss a word, miss a blessing, whatever to you." But then I've stepped down in the mud with them!
You totally crack me up, Melissa! Love your topics, your comments and your sweet heart of service.
I would like to better understand the Calvinism vs. Arminian debate.
and I am so tired of hearing/arguing about homosexual activities being not a choice but a "born with it" cant help it, kind of sin.
I would love for someone to explain Hebrews 6 to me. vs. 4 talks about those who "have tasted the heavenly gift of the Holy Spirit, who have the tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and have fallen away". It states it is impossible for those people to be brought back to repentance. I don't understand who those people are and some of my peers have used that to say you can lose your salvation. I disagree.
I'm tired of people bickering about election and free will as it pertains to salvation.
Melissa, I like how you comment within the blog to people who's posts touch you and those you like. It feels like a dialogue that way.
1.How the NT church actually operated.
2. freewill vs. predestination
My brain has been tumbling around about the issue of "carnal" Christians. I went to a church once who had an elder do a whole presentation about how there couldn't be such a thing as a Carnal Christian: a true Christian, though sinful would want to confess sin and get right with the Lord and continue to grow. Some people in our church say profession=salvation, regardless of what their life represents.
I fully believe once saved, always saved, but how are we sure we are truly saved to begin with. I never really wrestled with all of this until it came to presenting the gospel to teenagers and having one say:"They don't really act at all like they're saved... 'you shall know them by their fruit'" which really opened up a can of worms in the discussion.
I did some digging and found a good article with lots of scripture about carnal Christians on Bible.org by Bob Deffinbaugh, but it still has been giving my brain plenty to chew on.
Rachel in Mississippi,
The end of your question- "but is the Old Testament really just a history lesson now?" is a profound one and I'm really glad you asked it.
MMF
1. I wish I knew more about the end times.
2. At the same time, I'm tired of hearing about the end times. I grew up in a very Conservative, multi-denominational, Christian school and they had some strict rules about discussing issues of doctrine. I'm not even kidding! We weren't allowed to talk things like baptism or the end times or any of those issues. They felt that was the churches job to discuss not their's. It really was a fabulous, God filled place. Just a few kinks to work out.
Hannah
More: Why do people like to apply the promises in the Old Testament to our lives, without applying the conditions and requirements and curses? You know what I mean? Example: Jeremiah 29:11 is quoted often, (I know the plans I have for you, says the LORD, plans to bless you . . . give you hope and future.)
BUT--it was written specifically to the Israelites who were in captivity (or going to captivity, I forget which right now!) in Babylon. How dare we apply this to our comparatively minor issues? (I lost my keys, my car needs a new battery, the kids are acting up, etc.)
Also: Why do we no longer need to obey the Old Testament laws? Because some we do obey (murder, sexual immorality, etc.) so why are those ones forbidden, but others are ok now?
2. Bickering over insignificant stuff. Lots have already been mentioned.
I wish I knew more about fasting - when, why and how! Thanks!
1. I am interested in any theology or doctrine that has the potential to make me more like Jesus.
2. I have grown very weary of theology/doctrine debates that have no hope of making me more like Jesus and sometimes even work the opposite direction. Our chruch recently spent enormous amounts of time on the infant vs. believer's baptism issue. Ugggg! My experience was that this highly charged doctrinal issue can cause people to behave in very un-Jesus like ways.
1. Predestination and election and how that plays in with free will. A very BIG subject to me.
2. Recently, the topic of elders in the church.
Shiona Howard
Pasco, WA
I would love to know more about salvation... Specifically, "the sinner's prayer" is not found in Scripture. When the people of the New Testament Church are saved, they simply believed and were baptized. So when I share my faith with others, and if they want to commit their lives to Christ - am I supposed to lead them through some special prayer? Or is it just a turning point of belief and heart?
Melissa,
I am most interested in the issue of suicide from a Biblical perspective. Please don't think I'm considering it because that couldn't be further from the truth! I'm the friend that everyone comes to with questions related to Bible and doctrine. Of late I've had 2 different people ask me what the Bible has to say about suicide and, in my research, I've confronted some conflicting information. Its the classic case of "ask 10 people the exact same question and get 10 different answers." So, if I had something on that it would be most helpful.
And the think that I'm, quite frankly, sick to death of hearing folks debate about is actually 2 fold: salvation by grace v. works & the role of women in the church. Salvation is by grace and for anyone who comes! The Bible is very clear on that. Works are a by-product of that salvation in that if you're saved by the precious blood of Jesus, you should want to work for Him as long and hard and often as you can because, without us, the spreading of the gospel message would cease.
As for the role of women in the church, they have numerous roles, each as important as the other but I do not, for one nano second, believe that they can be pastors or deacons and that they can not teach a coed class alone unless it is a children's class. I believe that the Bible is very clear on these issues relating to women. Now, before y'all start throwing rocks at me, I'm a woman wearing many hats in a local southern baptist church in Atlanta GA and without the women of our church, we'd be in serious trouble. Women are vitally important and have a loud voice in the church but, again, I believe the Word is very clear on what we can and can not do.
Just my 2 cents! I've enjoyed reading all the other posts and seeing what others want to learn more about and what they are "sick of hearing" about.
Thank you so much Melissa! You're posts and what you ask us are always so stimulating!
Love in Christ,
Stephanie
Douglasville GA
The class that I most enjoyed in seminary was my Theology of Suffering class. Actually - enjoyed is of course not the right word. But prior to this course I found so many - including Christians - grappling with the idea of suffering, and how a loving God exists and rules in the midst of Auschwitz. My experience with Christian response up to that course, was offensive - and often I was ashamed at the trite and totally inappropriate of Christian greeting card response in the face of such staggering staggering suffering. That we as Christians not only had not grappled with true answers around suffering - but had not learned to join our voice in lament. To weep as Christ wept, and not use our answers to distance ourselves from those who suffer.
While I know that it is a controversial topic - the notion of the Crucified and suffering God was critical for me in my journey on this topic. Emmanuel, God with us, and a savior who suffered too. Bringing the suffering of God into the theological discourse was HUGE for me, and turned that conversation into one where the one who suffers is not comforted by a God who feels nothing, but rather a God who suffered out of love for them.
And the topic that wearies me? Hmmm... I would have to say that as a mature Christian woman, who is single, I totally totally bless and affirm the family. One of my favorite reads last year was you Mom's Feather's From My Nest -- and I gave it to many Mom's on Mother's Day this year. Love families - love my own family - pray for families. But in the name of all that is good - would beg churches to quit using the term "family values" -- as it can serve to divide the body of Christ in a way that is totally unnecessary. We are Christians - and all are called to live by the Spirit. Single, widowed, married, divorced, red and yellow, black and white! Rendering the term "family values" sets the Church up in a way that seems odd given the fact that Jesus himself was single! Live by the Spirit, and I promise your family will be the better for it! : )
Shawna
#1) I want to understand more about the end times and the prophetic that has come and will come to pass, but I don't really like to hear it from a scary, perspective- if you know what I mean.?
(For example- I loved the John 90 day devotional by Beth that explained some real truths about Revelations/John and made it relevant).
I don't know if I'm tired of a topic yet.
1) I would like to learn more about the Trinity.
2) I am sick and tired of people getting stuck on the issues of "end times". Only the Father knows the timing of His return so why can't believers get off the soapbox about WHEN it will occur and spend that energy and time more wisely in reaching those who don't know the amazing gift of salvation? I understand that end times are relevant, but....
Thank you for posing the question.
M---
When you answer some of these questions, would you also include what Bible software you use? I need more than BibleGateway.com (although it's great).
What biblical/theological/doctrinal issue(s) do you wish you were more educated about?
The Trinity
What biblical/theological/doctrinal issue(s) are you tired of hearing people bicker about?
Once Saved Always Saved (which I believe by the way)
1) God's sovereignty vs our free will (not to be confused with predestination vs free will). I'm actually talking about how God is SOVEREIGN over everything, but yet we have a free will. In a way, I understand how this works and in another way, I just marvel at Him because He is GOD and I'm just not.
2) I'm tired of the division that can occur over speaking in tongues or not. Or any particular 'spiritual practice' for that matter. I hate division/spiritual pride in the body of Christ. Some things simply do not affect our salvation; our right standing; our freedom in Christ. We should NOT divide over them or think we are more spiritual than someone else.
My best friend and I disagree on the issue of tongues, but we do NOT let it come between us. In fact, we have never even discussed it, even though we both know where the other stands. We just don't need to discuss it because God is sitll God and Jesus is still our Savior, ya know!? Yay, Jesus, for unity!
Great questions Melissa. Your posts always spark me to dig deeper into his word and deepen my knowledge of Him.
To answer your questions
The one topic I would love to know more about is: End Time Prophecy - I am fascinated by the subject, but haven't done a lot of research on my own.It is such a huge topic with varying standpoints, if I am being honest I am a little intimidated by it.
The one topic I am tired of hearing debated (but coincidently am truly interested in hearing you and your Mother's thoughts on) is the debate of whether or not the infilling of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues is a true manifestation of God for this day and age.
1. I would like to understand better how things "go together" in the OT and NT. For example, I just watched your Mom teach in the Psalms study on how Jesus words "I am the light of the world..." were representative of the lights from the Feast of Tabernacle going off all around Jerusalem. Obviously this statement is heavily paraphrased by ME...no fault of hers for inaccuracy if I interpreted her words wrong. Anyway...without being a Bible scholar I want to know how to get the most out of the word when I am living my life and studying as much as I can but don't have the opportunity to go to seminary.
Is that at all clear?
2. While I get that church is an important part of a believer's life (and I GREW UP in the church), I hate people assuming that if you miss a week or choose to not be involved for a season of life..there is something wrong with you. That really bothers me because I think it promotes the exclusivity of the christian community.
Interesting thoughts, Melissa.
I really would like to understand how to love like Christ...not just theoretically, but in the hard realities of life...for example: how to love the transgendered people....This is especially on my mind, as for a class I am taking in school a transgendered individual came to speak to us. (S)He was brought up in the church, and (s)he was completely betrayed by some very influential people in the church. When (s)he was speaking, (s)he told of how (s)he used to pray, and really believe that those prayers were answered. I know that this person is still searching for God, even though they themselves don't know. Just hearing them talk was very revealing about that to me. How would Christ love them? As much as He loves me or you or anyone.
I would also like to know how to have an Acts 2 type of church, literally. I want that so much. That's the type of church that we are supposed to be. So I just wish I would be able to actively do my part, and others would do theirs...it would be sooooo beautiful and welcoming to everyone.
I am trying to get God to work on transforming my mind from the legalistic mentality that I was brought up with, to be what He intended.
I would like to be able to read and understand Revelations and other prophecy.
and.......Just for my own curisoity:I would like to understand more about the Nephilim, more specifically what were they, and why are they mentioned.
Melissa I love these post it is almost like candy for the mind!
My biggest theological and doctinal question that I am chewing on is women in ministry. As a woman in ministry where is the line and why do I feel like I am being looked at under a microscope for wanting to teach the word? Not as a pastor just a a teacher It started with a debate for a Systematic Theology class and I am still chewing.
As for as what am I tired of predestination vs. free will!!!! The way I see it my Bible says go and so that is what we should do the rest is up to God.
Melissa keep the mind candy coming I love these post. Have a great weekend.
Carrie
p.s. Rachel in MS love your question about the Old and New testament. Can we really understand the sacrifice of the cross without the understanding and the history of the sacrificial system and law of the Old Testament?
Great questions, Melissa.
1. What about the verse in Proverbs where it says: Delight yourself in the Lord, and He will give you the desires of your heart - but then doesn't?
2. Sick of hearing man trying to explanation for predestination.
Blessings to all in Siestaland!
I love the way you think Melissa. I can totally relate to the dream day of coffee and theological discussion!
1. I would like to learn more about eschatology.
2. I am tired of the women & submission debate. There shouldn't be a debate, it's biblical! It's just that simple.
1. I would like to know more about all the Old Testament prophecies that Jesus fulfills. And how He completes/is the true representation of Jewish traditions.
2. People putting Jesus into politics. Because obviously Jesus is on your side. And as a result, you're right. And you're self-righteous about it. And no other schools of thought are even considered. After all, Jesus is on YOUR side.
Not you, Melissa, people who do that - LOL. It looked like I was really giving you a tongue lashing.
Moops! Yes I will do that! Great Idea!
1. I would like to learn more about if God has favorites. Someone once told me you are God's favorite. I was confused about that. Does God have favorites. If you are a cristian and seeking him daily and have a realationship with him does that make me a favorite?
2. I'm tired of a divided church! Catholics, protestants, methodists, lutherns, etc. I don't like it when I go to mass and the priest says that the Catholic Church was the one chruch set up by God and that they can trace the popes all the way back to Peter. Is that ture Melissa? If so, is it then "the church."
Hi Melissa! I've been saved for some 30 years now but only studying the Word for the last 18 years. It's sad I know but I too wasn't raised in a church that taught how to live it just hear it preached. I love to do Bible studies--especially your moms! Anyhoooo-- I guess I'd really like to know more of the history, dates and people connected to them. I never really was a history buff so concerning the Bible it don't resonate easy to me.
What I would love to hear less debate about is the different translations-right vs wrong.
Also another issue I would like to learn more about is death,dying, why is is scarry sometimes to think about. If I am saved it should'nt bother,right?
Thanks for the time to sound back on a few things. Carla
I find it really interesting that many of the things people want to know more about and the things they are bickering about are the same topics. Hmm....
1. There are SO many things! Intellecually - I'm really itching to dig into Deuteronomy. I heard that it was called the King's Book and that new kings were to learn it by heart. Parallel to that, Jesus quoted that book more than any other. So what does this often overlooked book have that is so worthy of kings and Christ? And wahat does is say about us that we are bored by it? Emotionally - knowing when to let go of things or when to persist in prayer. This cuts to my heart.
2. Differences in denominations. Sometimes I wonder what the apostles would say if they could see the number of differences in churches today - especially John. Yes, I know there are differences. No, we won't always agree on everything. However, why does it have to be "us" and "them"?
Melissa,
Oh my word how cool of you to ask!
In this current season of personal study I would have to say T.U.L.I.P. This (these) keep my contemplative mind busy.
And regarding that subject, I understand how a person would hold to "five point", but what is it with "five and a half" or as I have even heard said "five point looking for a sixth"?? Are these sarcastic comments that accuse someone of being Hyper-Calvinist?? They are curious statements that leave me wondering what exactly do they mean? I don't feel comfortable enough to ask, outloud that is, and that segways into my answer to your next question.
I'll have to go with the argument of Calvinism vs Arminianism.
I don't hold solid to either one, but rather embrace points from both. I really like Philip Schaff's comment "...Both are right in what they assert, both are wrong in what they deny."
I find the study and discussion of them very, very interesting ... as long as there is edification and no argument!
Great questions!! Thank you so much!
And thank you for your service to the King.
Love you so,
JoAnne
I would just like to study the Old Testament more. I love everything about it.
I’m pretty sick of the whole Harry Potter/Twilight Debate. I have had Christian brothers and sisters tell me that I was going straight to hell for reading the devil’s material. Can I see where a problem might happen? Yes, yes I can but if we teach our kids and young adults that it is fiction right away. Then what is the problem. We let our kids believe in the ‘most magical place on Earth,’ Disney with no problems and Cinderella had a fairy godmother. Who by the power of “bippty-boppty-boo” was able to go to the ball.
1. I wish I were more educated on the concept of the Jewish wedding and how it compares to His bride, the church.
And why in the Old Testament was the first born more "flesh centered" and the second born more "spirit centered." Cain/Abel, Esau/Jacob, etc.
2. I guess I would most hate to sit around and discuss the issue of women as pastors. Eeek! Did I say that?!!
Thanks for asking this question:
1. Biblical issue need to more educated about: Ancient of Days-looking at historical events and current events and thinking about how God is the Ancient of Days and how mans' laws do not always follow what has been written in the Bible as God's law and how that affects all mankind since the beginning of time until Jesus returns.
2. Biblical issue you are tired of hearing people bicker about: Lately anything that goes against God's Word. It is interesting after reading your post I did a keyword search "quarrel" on Bible Gateway-*Learning how to turn to God's Word in all matters.
I wish I were more educated about...simply how to live the Christian life well. I feel like I know lots of bits and pieces from the Bible, but don't always know how to put them together and LIVE abundantly.
I tire of hearing discussions about who is saved/in God's will and who isn't. Let preface this by saying that I care deeply about others' eternity and, even more, that they learn to have an intimate relationship with God. However, I also believe that entering that relationship takes time (like any other) and that we should just love them, encourage them, and challenge them, but not brow beat them with judgment (because who are we really to judge anyway...I rather leave that up to Someone who is qualified!).
1. Prayer ---
Jesus taught us to pray "thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven". And I am totally horrified of pitching a spiritual fit and somehow winding up with something short of God's will and intent for my life.
So then where does that leave us in praying... in praying for ourselves and praying for others? Am I praying for God to remove something that He full-well intends in order to accomplish His will in their life (or mine) here on earth as it is in Heaven?
But then there's the scriptures regarding "have not because you ask not". I become so torn sometimes in my praying, saying things to the effect of "well, Lord, Heaven only knows You know this is what I want; but good grief, what do I know."
I wonder sometimes if I'm too timid and I may be leaving His power unaccessed, if you will. But then if He has a plan, and I think He does, does He need me to "ask for it" before He'll put it into motion? I just can't believe I'm that crucial to the whole scheme of things!
So.... where does that leave a person like me? On my face, just loving Him, trusting Him, believing Him.... confidant that He does all things well.
2. What am I weary of hearing? My Christian brothers or sisters criticized for what I'd consider "non-essentials" when they so obviously love the Lord and serve Him with all their heart.
Wow!!!Just reading the comments makes me want to dig into some major Bible study!
I'm with all the others who want to know more about free will and how to grapple with it when you think you may have ignored God's will and it was life altering. What do you do with that? I'd also love to know how to find the Old Testament links to the New Testament and vice versa that have caused so many Aha! moments for me.
I'm tired of the categorizing of sin debate - which sin is the worst, etc. They're all sin and we are ALL sinners and we all need Jesus.
Can I recommend a book? Tony Evans - Theology You Can Count On. I love this book - I thought it was more of a reference book, but I just started with chapter 1 and his wording and examples have just really helped me understand so much that I didn't have a grasp on. It's pretty thick and I'm still working through it, but it's different than any other I've read.
Kim
Chester, VA
1. Wish I understood more about sovreignty vs. free will.
2. Tired of people limiting women in ministry.
I would love to understand better the "charismatic" gifts of the Spirit, such as tongues, interpretation, prophecy.
One thing I am weary of hearing about and trying to explain is, "if there is a God, why do bad things happen?" or put another way, "why do bad things happen to Christians/good people/Godly people?"
1. I'd love to know more about the trinity - it really confuses me that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are 3 in 1...
2. Birth Control.
I wish I was more educated on how to defend the authenticity of the bible translations. I can defend the bible with people, places, writers were witness's, prophecy..etc...but I get stumped on the question "The bible is translated by men over and over and various translations" and what really makes me nuts is when they say "Oh thats YOUR intrepretation".
What I am tired of hearing people bicker about is America being a Christian nation and all the political views in the news regarding evangelicals and politics. Can we get back to talking about the love of Jesus and sharing about his love, which changes lives one at a time.
Love you Living Proof Siestas bunches and bunches!!
I would love to learn more about spiritual warfare and about the power of the Holy Spirit.
I'm tired of hearing people argue about women in the church and music.
Thanks for asking!
1. Would love to learn all about Jewish customs - their festivals, rituals, etc. because that's our heritage. Love their reverence for God...wouldn't even speak His name.
2. Sick of watching nature shows on TV and hearing the commentator say that this evolved from that, and talking about evolution and missing links.
Thanks, and God bless.
Betty - Laurinburg, NC
I got into a very heated discussion with none other than my boss about fasting. He took one viewpoint while I stand firm on my belief. He then began to ridicule what I believe in and basically would not hear of anything that I was offering as to why I believe the way I do. I get frustrated with people like this because everyone has a right to believe as they choose and should not be judged because of differences.
One more thing:
I agree with all the siestas on the issues of frustration.
Our last preacher did an excellent sermon on what Paul said about "Can we eat and drink what we want, but should we?" I need to get a copy and put it on my FB page b/c there are so many Christians that do it now, it is on the rise. If one smokes,somehow, that is worse. Really. I agree with Ruth Bell Graham. Eating bad food all the time, drinking, smoking, etc. are all damage to our bodies. Believe me, I sin in these areas, with exception to alcohol. I was addicted and delivered from that. But, I love my Full Throttle and caffeine and chips, fried food, etc.
My really big frustration is when S.S. teachers get up and say that it is wrong to take anti-depressants. Again, this is not for us to say. So many people are hurting and like other diseases, it requires medical help.
Having said that, I do believe one should keep Jesus first and go to counseling and I won't limit that to Christian counseling b/c I've been there too and sometimes they are just like "Get back to God." Yes, Yes! Sometimes we get so down, we need some med. attention. I think we get in a very dangerous place when we get up and tell people that they should not take meds b/c they don't have faith. Bull. I know from very close loved ones that this is not true! Guess what, you can still sense the Holy Spirit and Jesus while on medication. Billy Graham thinks it's okay too and I know he's not God. Should we not get chemo or whatever. Depression destroys marriages and wastes so many lives. Again, it is between the person and God. People need to stay out of this one. I know too many who have suffered b/c of pride and shame from the church about medication and they are not in church or they have committed suicide or they are not serving God b/c they just can't!
Okay enough of my ranting. I do love church, I really do. As the body of Christ and we are the church, we still have a long way to go.
Barbara
Oh boy - my best friend and I LOVE theology.
1. I would love to know more about Hebrew. And about the Biblical Feasts/Festivals. There is just SO much to learn.
2. I could just scream over "New" vs "Old" covenant(s). How does God never change but throw out the "Old" Testament? Ahh!
And I bet I could post ten more times on each side :) Thanks for the opportunity to think deeply.
Anne R.
Can't wrap my head clearly around predestination and I'm tired of hearing people bicker about the role of women in the church.
1)I wish I knew more about why each book was chosen in the Bible. This seems to come up with people who question me on the inerrancy of Scripture.
2)I'm sick of hearing people say that I should trust God's Sovereignty in situations that I think I should protect my children. That may not make sense. But...
My passion is to grow in knowledge of my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Paul talks about growing in the knowledge of God in several of his letters. Phil. 1:9-10, Col. 1:10, for starters. That's what I love so much about studying with Beth, I'm challenged and encouraged to keep growing.
I am frustrated with all the end times talk; people listen to the news and then start making all kinds of statements, that really only God knows where we are at on the line of history. One thing I do know, Jesus is coming every day for people who are entering eternity each day...it seems the urgency should be about the lost who are entering eternity today, whether than what todays happening mean regarding end times.
Thanks for letting us share our heart with you today Melissa. I look forward to your response.
Brenda
Broken Arrow
1. This is something I can't learn until heaven, but I would love to discuss with God what He was creating and involved in before the world and man. He has always been, so what had He been doing??
2. I get sad when people choose to live in a pity-party, victim mentality vs. doing real self examination, dealing with your stuff, turning to God and discovering how joyful you can be (even in the rough times). I don't want to sound pious, it just floors me when some go on and on and you try to tell them where true joy and contentment lie and they look at you like you were born on another planet. My heart hurts for them.
Hi Melissa! Wow, i too would love to be a research assistant @LP, although I like to be up front teaching as well.
Gosh, I wish I was more educated about so many biblical/theological things, idk if I could really narrow it down. Probably the original languages (I just started learning Greek :D).
I see a number of people have mentioned the Calvin/Arminian debate, that would be another one, I have really only studied the basics, but I don't really want to put a lot of effort into it because if it was that clear cut, there wouldn't be this much controversy. I think there are a lot of things people can focus on that would be more productive, like Wesley's doctrine of Christian perfection - loving God with your whole being. Besides, I don't think John Calvin was as adamant about election being the forefront as his followers have made it to be.
Tired of? - people claiming and living like God is not sovereign. Some heretics spread lies to get people to doubt, and many Christians (including myself) live their lives like God is not in complete control - letting fear and doubt preside over faith, trust, and peace.
Thanks Melissa! And yes, I'd love to hear the answers that you, your sis and mom have for those questions!
Michele
Liverpool, NY
Discipline of Children.
Spanking.
For the record, my favorite parenting books are:
Good and Angry: Exchanging Frustration for Character in You and Your Kids! by Scott Turansky and Joanne Miller (Paperback - Sep 17, 2002)
Say Goodbye to Whining, Complaining, and Bad Attitudes...in You and Your Kids (Paperback)
by Scott Turansky (Author), Joanne Miller (Author)
(and their other books are good too)
Raising Great Kids by Cloud & Townsend (Paperback - 1999)
Boundaries with Kids by Henry Cloud and John Townsend (Paperback - Nov 1, 2001)
Grace-Based Parenting by Dr. Tim Kimmel (Paperback - May 17, 2005)
I'm always so curious how your mom and dad disciplined you especially when you share your weaknesses. I wonder how my discipline style will contribute to my child's weaknesses. (I'm not implying anything negative about having a weakness. It's awesome to see how God works through them. I'm sure I'm not being clear. I'll stop.)
Great Questions!
I would love to learn more about how God speaks to us. I think it would be fascinating to hear others stories.
I'm so tired of the trivial. The things that don't really matter, like the age of the earth, dinos, etc.. If you must debate do so on things that matter to people, be real!!!
Thanks!
Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
I hear from certain great teachers it is something that happens when one is born again. Then, I have known a couple of personal friends who were born-again and they got baptized in the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues. I could not refute what happened to them because it struck a resonate chord in me as being very real.
one passage in Acts says:
1 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples
2 and asked them, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?"
They answered, "No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit."
3 So Paul asked, "Then what baptism did you receive?""John's baptism," they replied.
4 Paul said, "John's baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus."
5 On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.
7 There were about twelve men in all.
Don't know what this is really saying concerning the Holy Spirit.
But, I know it is a hot topic! And one, that does divides. Apparently whatever divides the Church/Christian people there must be something deeper there and understanding that is not understood. To me just to say, "lets all just get along" is good but does it weaken the people of God, push the thing under the rug and not search it out? By defaulting to "let's all love and get along" which is good and probably the best answer at times bu not trying to learn what divides what the scriptures really mean then does it eventually weaken the church? Or are some topics just too deep and harder to understand by many?
Allison
This is a great post! I love you girls:)
1). I wish I understood more about the promises of God in the Old and New Testaments and how to apply them to my life and I wish I could understand the love of God for me.
2). I am most tired of the bickering about who is right and who is wrong related to trivial issues about how things are done at church.
This really made me think.
Could you explain if Christians should be givers and/or tithers. That tithing was a requirement of the law and different church perspectives have gotten me confused.
I love theological conversations. I don't like spending much time on the topic of predestination though. I love to hear about what God's word says especially to women and about their roles in life.
1. I would like to know more about fasting and how to do it.
2. I am tired of people bickering over creation vs. evolution.
I would like to learn more about resurrection, specifically the significance of Christ's bodily resurrection and the promise of our resurrection.
I recently started reading N.T. Wright's "Surprised by Hope" and realized how incorrect (or incomplete, perhaps), my impressions of the resurrection and heaven are.
I don't want to hear about divisive, nonessential issues. I wish we could have the humility to understand that, in the scope of all the generations in church history, we probably have got some (or a lot) of our pet ideas incorrect. If we can't rely on the grace and mercy of God to cover our errors, we're in trouble. But I dislike the arrogant discussions that present as if we, in our generation, have finally arrived at the "correct" theological understanding. I think Lewis called it chronological snobbery and I'm tired of all the discussions where it creeps in. End of soapbox.
1. Speaking in tongues... I would really like to understand this better... and I guess other charismatic vs. non-charismatic doctrinal differences.
2. Same-sex marriage
I can not stand to hear someone say who is or is not going to heaven....isn't that up to the LORD?
"Biblical/theological/doctrinal issue(s)"...what does that mean? Sorry if I sound like a COMPLETE idiot for asking that! I'm still learning!!! :O)
Wish I knew more about Creationism vs. Intelligent Design vs. Evolution. I find it hard to reconcile my faith with science sometimes.
I'm tired of having the "once saved always saved" argument with my dad (a pastor) who believes we can lose our salvation.
I love women that do such work like that. The care that took! God Bless you Baking Diva!
The name it and claim it belief that we hear so much about, mostly on Christian broadcasting.
and is there no end to Esther's influence?! (cakebaking now) I just have to say it again, the Esther study is the best study I have ever been privileged to participate in.
Anonymous,
Nevermind the whole biblical/theological/doctrinal string of words- all I am really asking you is if there is something about the Bible that you wished you understood better or that you find yourself confused by. Sorry about the theological jargon and thank you for your honesty! I appreciate it!
MMF
Maybe this doesn't count, I wish I knew more about the Garden of Eden. I just want to know absolutely EVERYTHING. All the creatures, what they looked like, what they ate, what Adam and Eve ate and wore and did and what it was like being in the presence of God. i just want to know!
Thanks for being willing to listen :)
Adrienne Anderson
Nebraska, USA
It is puzzling to me that someone can lead their whole life as a nonbeliever and then at the 11th hour make a confession and go to heaven. I don't think it is wrong, just puzzling.
I am tired of religion in politics.
1. I would like clarification on the role of women in church leadership. I mean, Paul said what he said. How do we deal with that? My hair's not covered. I talk in church. And the "submission" to your husband thing. What if you feel called to A but the hubby says no, we're doing B? Hmmm...
2. I'm tired of talking about: alcohol. Who cares? Bible says don't be DRUNK not don't DRINK. Very different. Also: gay marraige (cause being straight automatically makes you a wholesome/ heavenbound person? What?). Maybe if the church spent less time cursing the darkness and more time serving the lost, they wouldn't be compelled to drink, party, and explore sinful relationships. Just a thought.
I would love to learn about the manifestations of the Holy Spirit, in the early church, and now.
I am tired of people bickering about baptism, believer's vs. infant.
1. I wish to understand: "not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord"....This verse is scary. Interestingly, this was in Joni Tada's email devotional this morning. I have given my life to Christ, left my home to serve Him in ministry alongside my husband, raised my children to follow Him...and this verse still scares me.
I wish that I understood it: it seems to present a salvation by works, "but everyone who does the will of my Father...",
and in some translations even a salvation that is insecure..."but only the person who KEEPS doing the will of my Father in heaven."
2. I am weary of the list of things I must do, places I must go, meetings I must attend in order to be considered faithful, or right with Jesus. Sometimes I want to stand and say, "Just give us Jesus!"
2-b. Also weary of the music debate and the re-defining of the word "worship" as a synonym for music/singing. Biblical worship is so much more. I enjoy music styles from hymns to contemporary to classical to southern gospel and am saddened by all the squawking about it, as well as the defensive, pompous attitude of some music ministers...(excuse me WORSHIP leaders)...which has only made people feel oppressed. I like almost everything, and still feel oppressed by it.
Thanks for asking!
Angela
Arkansas
Well, I suppose I should answer the two questions you posed but seriously...all I can think about is that CAKE! It is AWESOME! And I so need a piece of it and some coffee right about now! Kudos to the maker if the cake! WOWOWOWOWOW!
That cake is amazing! Who could eat it? Okay, I would too....
What biblical/theological/doctrinal issue(s) do you wish you were more educated about?
Spiritual gifts. So many opinions, not much solid teaching in Scripture. Are we supposed to just figure it out? Let the Spirit lead us with it, etc? I'm especially intrigued by the gift of discernment, which I think I have and have had to rely on the Spirit for learning the hang of it. I have discovered about 90% of pastor's wives who I've talked to also have it, but their husbands do not. Interesting isn't it?? How to use that as a ministry couple effectively?
What biblical/theological/doctrinal issue(s) are you tired of hearing people bicker about?
Calvinism/Armenianism Can't we all just follow Christ and stop being so distracted?
I would like to know exactly what the bible says about Christians drinking alcohol. I know this is a controversial topic but I really want to know what the bible says about it. It's all around me of people professing to be Christians but drinking alcohol regularly.
I find myself confused by things I know I won't ever figure out - and I am at a point where that is Ok! iT'S GREAT ACTUALLY! I love just trying to feel the simple things I know for sure!
I would like to learn more about fasting and how/when to do it and what to expect from it.
Well, as a Catholic things are different because our doctrinal theology is pretty clear on most things HOWEVER - I am not completely and totally educated in our teachings (isn't that terrible!)so I guess I would love the chance to just study and really learn it.
Like many others - I don't really care to hear more on predestination.
1. Wish I knew Old Testament history better.
2. I am SO TIRED of Christians putting their "feelings and opinions" above the authority of God's word to justify their position.
With love
Like many others who have commented, I enjoy a theological discussion or discussion of deeper things. My friends like to tease me that I spent too much time at Bible college where these discussions were regular dinner time conversation, and so I have this idea that all conversations should be like that. ;-)
In answer to the first question - definitely want to know more about spiritual warfare. I've grown up in a church that has (until recently) been largely silent on this. And it seems to be such a huge thing.
Tired of hearing people bicker about - predesitnation/election and eschatology. Not that I don't think we need to study and learn what the Bible has to say about these things, but (after spending too many hours debating these) I don't think arguing over which view is right is helpful when you can biblically see both sides of these topics in study.
When it comes to the issue of debating end times, I really like something my pastor has said many, many, many times this winter/spring as he has been preaching through the book of Revelation: "The purpose of Revelation was not to make us experts in end time events, but to make us worshippers of Jesus Christ." He has always then gone on to explain that this statement doesn't mean we son't be reading and learning and studying about end time events, or that we shouldn't, but that it shouldn't be our only goal when we read Revelation. I have to say, when you look at it that way, Revelation is still somewhat confusing and scary, but it's also incredibly exciting and inspring!
I guess my answer to both questions is Calvinism vs. Armenianism. Most churches are Calvin...my DH is Armenian. I hate the way the two sides bicker and take nasty shots at each other....that's not the way God wants it to be! In some ways I'd like to know more, but in other ways, I frankly just don't care....kinda like the tribulation and the rapture...fun to know more but frankly, in the end, it doesn't matter because I know I'm going home!
Thanks!
In Christ,
tulip in Idaho
Praying for physical, emotional and spiritual healing into today's church- Why do we see so little confidence in God's healing power while Jesus directed us to teach, preach the Kingdom and heal the sick? Ministers called to pray for suffering people, tell me they see as many healings in quiet liturgical services as in charismatic service settings-
Also, more on how the power of scripture and prayer used together can effect our lives
Wow. That cake. I kept looking for the cake. No way did I think that was a cake! bEAUTIFUL. What I would like to understand is the concept of grace. I don't really understand what it is and what it isn't. All our connotations of it have just made me not regard it highly enough I am sure.
I am weary of many things but don't really think it has to do with honest to goodness bible debate or study. I may not be in the right place for some of them yet, but it's always good to know they are there. I know I need a refresher course on fruits of the spirit... although your Mom's was delicious... Hugs.
I am copying the comment from "Ashton" because I remember my mom and dad arguing just a few times over the "speaking in tongues/receiving the Hold Spirit" thing. My dad grew up Baptist and my mom grew up "holynists" as she called it or Pentacostal as normal people call it. Dad always won the argument, mainly because he shut down any arguments in our house. Now I'm reading some good comments, like the one I've copied below, on the subject and it has brought up (very) old memories. I'm still (very) Baptist, but wondeirng about the whole thing.
"Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
I hear from certain great teachers it is something that happens when one is born again. Then, I have known a couple of personal friends who were born-again and they got baptized in the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues. I could not refute what happened to them because it struck a resonate chord in me as being very real.
one passage in Acts says:
1 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples
2 and asked them, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?"
They answered, "No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit."
3 So Paul asked, "Then what baptism did you receive?""John's baptism," they replied.
4 Paul said, "John's baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus."
5 On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.
7 There were about twelve men in all.
Don't know what this is really saying concerning the Holy Spirit.
But, I know it is a hot topic! And one, that does divides. Apparently whatever divides the Church/Christian people there must be something deeper there and understanding that is not understood. To me just to say, "lets all just get along" is good but does it weaken the people of God, push the thing under the rug and not search it out? By defaulting to "let's all love and get along" which is good and probably the best answer at times bu not trying to learn what divides what the scriptures really mean then does it eventually weaken the church? Or are some topics just too deep and harder to understand by many?
Allison"
What biblical/theological/doctrinal issue(s) do you wish you were more educated about?
To be honest, my question is WHY about everything....yes, I am the inquisitive one. Why, why, why, why? I am thankful to the Lord for a "sixth sense" of sorts to read folks because recently he has laid on my heart a HEAVY desire to keep a prayer journal. Talk about a theological/doctrinal issue...praying. I have never experienced the satisfaction like keeping a prayer journal can bring one. If I slack off, my attitude kicks in....what is up with that!!
What biblical/theological/doctrinal issue(s) are you tired of hearing people bicker about?
Everything.....especially denomination issues. Why can't everybody just get along and not try to interject into scripture? I guess a big one is spiritual warfare.....it is big in our society. It is one of the reasons for most of the bickering that goes on period. Satan is real and it seems that he is having the time of his life currently. I'm sure the angels are worn out all the time from fighting Satan and his army. Satan and his army sure know how to put it over on us and make us bicker about anything and everything.
Seriously? Where to start and HOW: Should I read through the Bible completely just for general understanding? Should I start with one specific book and get a handle on that? Should I take more of a historical approach? Start memorizing scripture? Find out, generally, how the Bible was constructed? Etc.
I know that's several questions, but I'm just looking for a basic approach to start gaining some concrete head knowledge now that my heart is in the right place.
I wish I knew more about the language of Jesus's day. I think so much of what Jesus was trying to say is simply lost in translation. Rob Bell broke down the scpriture about "yoke" and totally changed my bible reading experience.
I am sick of a lot of subjects, like tithes, women is charge, but most sick of the "King James fight"
I could say a lot on that one, but I'll just say I am sick of it.
You know Melissa, I purchased J. Vernon McGee's commentary on the Bible and he opened my eyes to what Beth calls the "creativity of God's word". I was absolutely taken back by what scripture said as opposed to what I had learned in Sunday School. Don't get me wrong, SS is a good place to start your Bible study, but it does not need to stop there. And by all means don't choose just one teacher....Beth always tells us to learn from many. Open your eyes to the riches of scripture. Commentaries are great...I like Dr. McGee's, but there are others out there.
The meanings of words in the bible give it its life. I really saw the Old Testament as a history book until I read Dr. McGee's commentary...boy was I surprised to learn Genesis meant more than history!! Also Dr. McGee's schedule is quite different...he reads Genesis and then goes to Matthew, then Exodus, then Mark...very fascinating commentary and schedule. He has the "Read the Bible through in Five Years" ministry...he likes for folks to slow down and take in scripture. After reading it this way, I know why!
I recommend anyone slow down and take a deeper "dig" into scripture. It will enlighten you like no other.
I would love to understand more about faith/works issue. I am completely understanding that we are saved by faith alone. But, the book of James talks so much about fruit of someone saved. I want so badly to understand this more.
Jennifer, Phoenix
one more from me if I can
I wish I knew more of everything.
I am tired of the church debates..As a man did Jesus even go to church. It's a building and in our times we serve the building more than the building serveing the people. We have the "building chart" In the front of a good enough builidng so that we can buy a better building, all the while members are losing their houses, families cant pay their bills. The homeless are not being fed, the widows are forgotten, the father less are ignored. But the sound system is top notch. And now we have a bigger building that we can fill with more people that we can not afford to take care of. If the goal is to tell people God loves them, does the puplt need to be made of gold to meet that goal.
1. I would like to have more knowledge about the everyday lives during Biblical times. So much of the rich language idioms make more sense in light of how people lived then (e.g. "heaping burning coals on their heads...")
2. I am very done with the bickering on the same sex marriage issue and I'm pretty full up on free will vs. predestination. Believe it or not, I'm also not ready for another study on prayer. Too many of them are already out there.
Thanks for all you do!
1. Grasping a better idea of Acts when the Holy Spirit came upon them allowing them to speak in tongues. I hard one to wrap my mind around.
2. Trib, pre-trib, etc.
Reply to Rachel in Mississippi - Hey girlfriend that is a fab question! I'm sure all the Blog contributors will have great answers, my own personal experience over about 10 years of studies is the OT is RICH with the depth of understanding that is key to the NT. Beyond just a history lesson, it's God's heart for His people, and the foundation of what Christ accomplished. Revelation cannot be understood without an understanding of the symbolism from OT, and Jesus references over and over so He thought OT was very important (I believe Deut is the book He references the most).
A quote by Chuck Missler: "The NT is the OT revealed, and the OT is the NT concealed" meaning the OT is key to understanding and is Revealed in New, and the New is hidden in OT in prophesy =) Love to you in Christ! Bridget in Phoenix
I would love to know how people can profess Christ and yet still live in out right sin and rebellion and not have any problem with it whatsoever. Either they really never accepted Christ or did they? I know when I am sinning, the Holy Spirit convicts me and grieves terribly that I can't stand it and must cry out. I know several women who are so dear to me...PREACH--"Oh God is so good, so gracious..yada yada yada.. and living their life in adultry, addictions, and such. Outright.."Oh but God is so good and he is with me and I am receiving his grace."
Personally, I just want to puke. Call it judging if you must but I would rather hear---" I need prayer and I am living WRONG..God please help me!!!" Truth in the innermost being.
I would love to know strong theology on that. Works/faith/sin.
Love you all much.
Wow, I just got through reading all of the Siesta's comments! I remember going to one of Mama Beth's LPM events and she spoke about "spine and rib" issues. It was awesome. These comments remind me of her teachings! I think it was in Maine! I think we Siesta's could use that study today!
I am so into Bible Study and scripture memorization right now that I feel as though I am learning by leaps and bounds. I am sure I have questions but can't think of any theological queries right now.
I am upset when I hear Christians arguing about issues, being judgemental and not stopping to listen to one another before responding. I also believe we should respond with love. The Bible is uncompromising when it comes to certain sinful issues but I think we need to remember our own sinful nature and speak the truth with love and not condemnation. We shall leave the judgements to Jesus!!
Lori
I'm thinking about the use of alcohol. I believe the Bible says not to get drunk. That doesn't mean you can't drink, yet how many people do we know that drink without ever having become drunk. Also, it seems that what one generation does in moderation, the next does to excess. Not a legacy I want to pass to my children, or to have passed down to my grandchildren.
When growing up, my parents didn't drink. It was never preached to us, they just led by example. My sibling drinks rarely, and now their adult children to excess on occasion. A big change in 2 generations.
Curious what others think about this situation. Also, while some can handle it, it may be a bad witness to those who cannot.
1. Fear vs. faith. (Fear as in "being afraid")
2. Women in ministry. (So tired of hearing why women absolutely can not be pastors. How is it Biblical?)
I don't know if this is theological or not but I've just been really struggling with some questions like: If a person said they were saved but started living in a backslidden state and died that way will they be in heaven?
I would like to learn more about how to study the Bible. I LOVE doing Bible studies with curriculum, but when they end I flounder without the structure. I still read scripture every day, but I don't think I'm getting as much out of it as i could if I had a better approach.
I'm tired of a few things *grin*
*people telling grieving children animals can't go to heaven because they don't have a soul.
*pre or post trib - who cares - if you're going it doesn't really matter when.
*arguing Calvinism - he's not in the Bible.
*people saying "God told me" before they say something completely ridiculous.
Thanks for all you do!! You are loved!
Susan
My husband loves to talk about heaven and what we will be able to do etc... so we have many discussions about that. I'd like to study more about prophecy.
I have a hard time with folks who will only use the KJV of the Bible. Sorry--hope this doesn't offend anyone. But as a former missionary I saw nationals struggle to read a translation in their own language that was translated from the KJV---just didn't make sense. They were so happy when the NIV was translated into their language.
I come from a fairly conservative background. I'm very tired of hearing about the differences between denominations. Why can't we talk about unity through the Holy Spirit? Just because your church doesn't believe exactly the same way mine does doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means we need to search harder for the truth and ask for God's guidance on the differences.
Also, my sister is living a gay lifestyle. I would love to know more about how to respond to her in love and faith and with the word of God, and without using the "standard" passages we all turn to.
I would love to know the answer about baptism and whether or not it is necessary for salvation. I am also tired of the discussion. I just want to know the answer! :)
Adrienne
Senoia, GA
i want to know more about Jesus, i want to know more about living in the power of His Holy Spirit, and learning to put to death the deeds of the flesh
i am most tired of the discussion on the GAP theory....what ever happened to GOD said it/I believe it/ that settles it.
and even though it is not a Biblical issue i am SO tired of the "debate" over whether we should sing praise and worship songs or hymns in church... COME ON!!!!!!!....who would want to live without either of them?!?!?
Melissa,
The thing that is vexing me right now is Hebrews 6:4-6. I am absolutely certain about eternal security--no question in my mind about it. Cannot, cannot lose our salvation. My problem is that I am getting ready to teach this passage in Sunday school and I desperately want to teach it well. I've got a Wiersbe commentary, a MacArthur Commentary and Word Biblical commentary that I am referencing. This is a tough passage and I want to convey the right message.
Thanks for asking and that is way more than you wanted to know!!
Leah
I think everyone else has covered it...
I'm not much into debate; in my experience, it rarely proves profitable.
That being said, I have grown well-weary of denominational pride. I think, perhaps, our Father has also.
peace~elaine
1. End Times
2. End Times
Warm in Alaska.
(Maybe that sound just slightly snide - which I don't want. I would simply love to have a purely biblical understanding of what is said on this issue. Sometimes the vitriol often associated with this subject wearies me. I'm pretty sure Jesus was just being Himself and not a vitriolic version of Himself when He discussed these matters with His friends. I get the: 1. Fear Not; and 2. Pay Attention parts of what He said. But it's point #2 that can trip me up sometimes - in that I want to pay attention to what He asks us to - but I don't want to pay unnecessary heed to the "supposings" of others.)
I'm a doctrinal illiterate (sp?) I wish I knew postminnilium, pretrib, etc. and what these mean. Why do I hear people say "oh, that's calvanistic thinking." Is Calvin some heretic? What's with tulip? and armenism???? Boy I'd love to talk with you Melissa about these things.
What I'm sick of is infant/adult baptism. Body of Christ or remembrance at the Lord's table.
I'm thankful that Jesus kept it simple for simple folk like me.
I appreciate Beth's balanced take on so many Kingdom issues - theological and "structural".
An issue of the past couple years that has weighed on my heart is the (what to me is) unusual turns that some of my close friends in more supernatural circles have taken: "travelling" up to heaven for encounters with Jesus; interactions with angelic beings here on earth; experiencing "portals: where supernatural activity is heightened; this absolute drive for experiencing God's "glory", etc., etc.
I could cite some well known names of certain leaders in these movements - but I won't. The point being - while some may think these things are just so way out there, it is surprising to me just how many Christians are embracing this sort of thing.
It confuses me. I stepped off this train a couple years ago, joined up with a more conservative (your basic non-denominational Bible believing church) and while I miss parts of the more passionate expressions at my former church (powerful worship times, etc.) I don't miss the strange and ---- don't know the words --- doctrinal / experiencial stuff.
Beth - what is going on in the Body?
A curious and some days heavy hearted Siesta
Hi Melissa,
The answer to your first question is, I want to know everything! (It's a good thing we have eternity ahead of us).
But for now, I want to know how something that is in the Old Testament, written to the ancient Hebrews is also for future generations and events. (Prophesy)
Is there some kind of clue in the text? For instance, I know the Jewish people were looking forward to the Messiah, how did they put it together to know what to look for? Even the Magi knew where and when he would be born and they weren't even Jewish.
The answer to question number two is "nothing" there is really nothing I am tired of hearing about and discussing as long as every is gracious to one another and basing their position on scripture and not just personal preference.
I would love to find someone to discuss all these things and many, many more things with.
Thanks for the post.
I would like to really understand I Corinthians 11:1-16.
I am weary of the shallowness of our churches. Let's get down to business and spread the gospel. Welcome the sinners and show God's love, since we've all sinned and come short of the glory of God. I guess it starts with me.
Thanks for this. I too could sit and chat with you about scripture. Love it.
I want to hear more about the Trinity I so adore. My Beautiful FATHER receives me at my worst. My Suffering SAVIOR refashioned me into something unbelievably glorious in all my mess. My hovering HOLY SPIRIT reveals daily to me the end of my resources. I want to dance with the Trinity (as C.S. Lewis put it). I hear so little about trinitarian theology but it has become foundational in my thinking.
Also, the flesh-Spirit tension in all of our relationships. I think my repentance is way too shallow even though I live in the present moment and deal with my stuff. Brokenness.
I have a Seminary degree and see way too much principled living that lingers on in my thinking: searching for relief from pain and life going well as my source of joy. No, life going well is Jonah and Joseph and Jeremiah and Jesus..."Life going well is dangerous" as someone said.
Also suffering---I wonder every day what Jesus is going to say to each of us when we meet Him face-to-face?
Jonah 2:8 - may we all not forfeit the grace of God in this moment (even inside a whale) for worthless stuff before our faces
PS - I just love you to pieces Melissa! You're such a joy to read!
I wish I could talk more about homosexuality from a biblical standpoint. I believe that God created man and woman to marry and have families. I have a brother that is gay and not Christian. I have another brother who is not a Christian. They think I'm the little baby girl who knows nothing.
I wish I knew more bc my kids are going to ask questions once they find this out. Its tough.
1) 'Visual' worship
Trinity
Dispensationalism vs. Covenant Theology (I want more reading for my own mental filing)
2) Don't mind the debate, as long as it's not puffed up knowledge and pride turned into bickering. So, to answer that question, I can't really. It steps on my last spiritual nerve to the extremity, so I just remove myself from the situation if that's the case. Debate: I'll do. Bickering: Couldn't even name a topic b/c I can't deal! I want to scream 'love' people!
1. Denominations
2. Denominations
:-)
...and props to the fabulous cake maker/decorator! WOW!
~Poorna
Thanks for asking! I would LOVE to get some proper teaching on The Anointing! I often here this phrase used in the evangelical circles: "You're walking in your anointing", "I saw/felt the anointing all over you", "Let the anointing fall fresh", etc., etc. I thought that once we received Christ that we were immediately anointed...
So I guess I want to know about The Anointing.
Heather Loritts Trotter
#1. I want to understand where the line is when we are talking about the Holy Spirit working in me to be in and do God's will AND me just willing myself to do the thing. I don't think I really expressed it well...but a lot of times I just feel like it's me trying real hard to be what God wants me to be...without a lot of success.
#2. I'm with a lot of other siesta's here....pre-destination/free will...followed very closely by end-times discussions. I'm thinking we need to be living FOR Christ now, so we can be living WITH Christ later...WHENEVER that will be!
And WOW on the cake!
Melana
I am in a church community right now where NO ONE wants to talk about doctrine. I would so love to have a sister in Christ who wanted to search the Scriptures with me & discuss things.
I would like to talk about the doctrine of election & also about exactly how God answers prayer.
I do NOT want to talk about music styles in the church ever again:)
I thank God over & over for the Bible studies from LPM. You'll never know how starved I was for each one & how it met such a need in my life.
1. Predestination v. free will.
1. Whether we are still to follow the clean/unclean eating guidelines in the Bible. There are verses in the NT that allude to unclean foods.
2. End times - will we be raptured or endure part of the tribulation?
Thank you so much for doing this.
Meliisa,
Hi, I am Southern Baptist and a non-drinker. Many christians seem to drink alcohol today. I have read all of the scripture concerning this, but need some clarity.
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